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Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by joshstrange »

joshstrange wrote: post #25
kfichter wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also pulled the trigger here hoping to be able to replace my desktop setup. What were the key issues you were having that made you feel like it's just not there yet for that use case?

I cover some of this in my blog post, but mostly it came down to the text I was looking at would be sharp and easy to read, but anything in my peripheral vision would look a little bit blurry. I only gave it a quick test and today I’m planning on trying to write a new feature all in the Vision Pro to see how that goes.

After writing this I went to write a tiny new feature for my side project on the AVP. At first I couldn't get my AVP to connect to my MBP and I thought it might be because it was in clamshell mode. I opened up setting and clicked around a bit then it showed up on my AVP to connect to (I went to Control Center and clicked the button to connect to a MBP, it didn't prompt me. It did prompt me the other day when I had the laptop open).

I started to write the feature but could feel the added friction and slowness. There was a little bit of input lag (moving mouse and feel like it wasn't moving as quick on the AVP), then I started getting an error from my backend in a place I hadn't touched anything. I very quickly took off the AVP to investigate with the "full power" of my MBP and external monitors.

The text in the AVP is clear when you are looking at your code but moving your head "smears" the picture a bit and anything you aren't focusing on isn't clear. It would be workable and maybe I'd use it on a plane but never if I have my monitors available to me. I want to try again in the next few days but it's a decent way off from replacing my monitors.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

lawrenceyan wrote: post #50
austin-cheney wrote: post #40

I am not convinced. First let’s be clear that there is minor ADHD which is a world of focus issues and minor distractions, and then there is catastrophic ADHD which is like living through the movie Momento in a world where memories don’t stick. I live in a household with catastrophic ADHD. I really have no idea what minor ADHD is like, but the last thing catastrophic ADHD needs is a gaming experience. A gaming experi…

Have you tried meditation? I genuinely am asking.

Not the OP, but I also have catastrophic ADHD as they so eloquently put it.

I've tried several techniques, that have had some minor initial success, but I just get bored and stop doing it. Which is also why I never became a better than beginner guitar player, properly filled out my opening repertoire in chess, finished almost any project I started, or did regular exercise. I just can't get myself to do boring repetitive tasks.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by l33tman »

dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I find at least a little bit funny that it seems that completely new people now "discover" what you can do with VR, as if this hasn't been a thing for almost 10 years and certainly for the last 5 years (although with slightly lower resolution than with the AVP).

But then again, it helps the entire industry that it apparently has reached a different audience this time who gets hyped again.

I just wish there could be new use-cases than just the same old recycled use-cases like virtual monitors, watching movies, looking at how it is to stand on the moon, or virtual conferencing. Maybe there really are no killer VR apps, except beat saber :/

Wasn't AVP supposed to be an AR headset? Or they just haven't really figured out what to do there? Now it's just a VR headset with passthrough, it isn't really "using" the external world.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

austin-cheney wrote: post #57
lawrenceyan wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried meditation? I genuinely am asking.

We have, but we didn’t try enough types of medication to find an ideal fit. I suspect the right medication would be helpful. The more extreme the ADHD the higher the concentration of medication is required to achieve normal functioning which means high side effects. To understand the complexity of brain medication requires an understanding of the problem. For ADHD the problem is both dopamine and low serotonin. Dopam…

Have you tried strattera(atomoxetine)?

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

edyc5 wrote: post #61

Working from home has been pretty difficult for me as a person with ADHD, everything is just so distracting that I actually went from 3 monitors to 2 monitors to now only just the laptop screen so that way I can force myself to focus. I can't imagine being productive with Vision Pro and it's "infinite" screens and infinite browser tabs. It would be productivity hell for me. Tho, I have been trying a few different tec…

Interesting, for me working from home is a little easier because I don't have the distractions of the office. I get caught up in everyones conversation, so I end up being distracted every time someone else is doing something.

I've never heard of anything like the concept mentioned in the linked article, what is your app? Is it going to be for MacOS? Have you found it useful?

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by Dylan16807 »

globular-toast wrote: post #66
dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to…

> Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price.

Probably not more enjoyment, unless you pretend the early buyer can never upgrade ever.

> The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to agree with this thinking. You basically just delay your game of choice by a few years. Makes absolutely no difference to you except you save money and perhaps skip some disappointing titles.

It makes no difference if you almost never talk about the game with anyone and want almost no multiplayer out of it either. That fits some games but definitely not others.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by nozzlegear »

Swizec wrote: post #13
joshstrange wrote: post #9

I completely agree on the extra overhead for opening new windows, and this authors thoughts on the pass-through quality. For myself I don’t think I realized how much I just look around while I’m thinking or working on some thing else but the Apple Vision Pro makes that very obvious as things light up, expand, etc. I never used the iPad is anything more than a consumption device and as things stand right now I’m not s…

> I never used the iPad is anything more than a consumption device Same until I got the keyboard. Most of my iPads collected dust in a corner because I don’t really do that much consumption. Then I got the Magic Keyboard and my iPad basically replaced my laptop. I use it for almost all my non-coding work. Even to give talks and workshops at conferences. The battery life is amazing, the form factor super convenient, a…

Same here, the keyboard plus iPad Pro has been an incredible combo for me. I’ve written here on HN before about how I use it to write code from the couch, bed, and even hotel rooms by SSHing into the Mac in my office and using Vim. I’ve got an Apple Vision Pro and am planning to test exactly that setup tonight.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by jackvalentine »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #70
jackvalentine wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t wish to be rude but why do you think the author needs to convince you of something regarding what sounds like a very different and difficult circumstance for you?

Seems like they're just offering their perspective. I'm sure the author wanted other perspectives, seeing as they wrote a blog post about it, and then posted it here themselves.

It struck me as quite the non-sequitur really. Didn’t address any of the content around the Vision Pro, defined ADHD as something different to the article and then used it as an opportunity to dump about their personal struggles.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by ionwake »

ianbutler wrote: post #12
ionwake wrote: post #11

Im sitting in England unable to test this. But I swear Im getting the vibe from preview videos that hand interactions with windows etc have what looks like a 100ms lag on them. Can anyone confirm if there is lag when moving objects around in this thing? Cos that would wear on any user fast. ( I hope it doesn't I'm really looking forward to this, Im just wondering if its as perfect interactionwise as iphones are )

Not in my experience, it’s super smooth. There is clunkyness with actually selecting a screen when multiple things are layered however.

yeah but smooth != fast.

But thank you for replying! It sounds like you like it mate.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by drusepth »

megablast wrote: post #67
globular-toast wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to…

Yes. It’s crazy people Just don’t wait 5 years. I assume You are being deliberately ridiculous?

I intentionally wait years for a lot of things I want. Price aside, there are plenty of other benefits if the potential downsides (waiting, missing any social aspects, etc) aren't a big deal to you.
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