Apple Vision Pro and ADHD • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by edyc5 » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:17 PM UTC

Working from home has been pretty difficult for me as a person with ADHD, everything is just so distracting that I actually went from 3 monitors to 2 monitors to now only just the laptop screen so that way I can force myself to focus. I can't imagine being productive with Vision Pro and it's "infinite" screens and infinite browser tabs. It would be productivity hell for me.

Tho, I have been trying a few different techniques to get myself more focused such as deleting TikTok and forcing myself to keep my phone on Do Not Disturb., etc.

I've even recently built an desktop app around the techniques described in this other HN Post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38274782 and using some techniques in Cal Newport's book "Deep Work" which has significantly helped me stay focused and get into a flow state much easier. I'm going to be launching this app soon in the App Store in the coming weeks. Would love to share my app with fellow HN'ers and get some feedback.

Email in my bio if any one wants to give it a try.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by wkipling » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:33 PM UTC

austin-cheney wrote: post #57

lawrenceyan wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried meditation? I genuinely am asking.

We have, but we didn’t try enough types of medication to find an ideal fit. I suspect the right medication would be helpful. The more extreme the ADHD the higher the concentration of medication is required to achieve normal functioning which means high side effects. To understand the complexity of brain medication requires an understanding of the problem. For ADHD the problem is both dopamine and low serotonin. Dopam…

I think they meant meditation.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by luxuryballs » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:34 PM UTC

I can only imagine that over time this mindful clumsiness will give way to me feeling super bored and tweaked when I took off the device after I’ve become accustomed to YouTube videos and apps filling an otherwise empty ambiance around whatever I’m doing in normal space.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by zmmmmm » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:37 PM UTC

KronisLV wrote: post #58

zmmmmm wrote: post #10

I routinely use Quest 3 with Immersed to do "focused" work by switching to specific environments that I associate with that. I can also co-work in a room of 5 - 10 other people who are also doing that which generates a little bit of impetus to focus as well. I think if this becomes the only reason to keep the device, for sure explore some other options like Quest 3 and see if it's sufficient. It does a lot more thing…

I got a Quest 2 mostly for entertainment, but using it for productivity reasons is basically a no go for me, due to the lenses (blurry near the edges and some light streaks for any off-center text, not sure what the correct name for that is) and overall resolution (can't even have my actual 4 monitors present without having to make them so big that each takes up like 90 degrees of my field of vision). I feel like I r…

Yes Quest 3 is a completely different ball game to Quest 2 as far as this goes. Quest 2 resolution and lenses were completely unusable for me and Quest 3 is usable. But there are people that will say Quest 3 is unusable so you have to really try it.

One thing it convinces me is that the resolution in Vision Pro is completely unnecessary for me. I need about 20% more resolution and I am done, after that other things are more important.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by Swizec » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:39 PM UTC

somewhereoutth wrote: post #22

Swizec wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I never used the iPad is anything more than a consumption device Same until I got the keyboard. Most of my iPads collected dust in a corner because I don’t really do that much consumption. Then I got the Magic Keyboard and my iPad basically replaced my laptop. I use it for almost all my non-coding work. Even to give talks and workshops at conferences. The battery life is amazing, the form factor super convenient, a…

But would it be fair to say that with the Magic Keyboard, your iPad has in fact become a laptop?

It’s certainly almost as heavy.

Unfortunately iOS is very nerfed compared to MacOS even though my M2 iPad probably hs more compute than my i9 laptop.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by globular-toast » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:40 PM UTC

dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to agree with this thinking. You basically just delay your game of choice by a few years. Makes absolutely no difference to you except you save money and perhaps skip some disappointing titles.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by megablast » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:42 PM UTC

globular-toast wrote: post #66

dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to…

Yes. It’s crazy people Just don’t wait 5 years.

I assume You are being deliberately ridiculous?

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by saintlunaire » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:46 PM UTC

hnthrowaway0328 wrote: post #42

dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

Probably because we all want toys but need justifications so that wives don't get angry.

Wives read HN and enjoy new technologies too, FYI.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by nickjj » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:46 PM UTC

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #46

hnthrowaway0328 wrote: post #34

About the ADHD part: I don't know whether I have ADHD but I do lose focus quickly once I figure out how to solve a problem, before doing any implementation -- after all the implementation, however long it could take, is boring and uninteresting comparing to figuring out how to implement. So what if I get myself a Raspberry Pi 8GB and jumps into VSCode and VSCode only? Is it possible to make a VSCode "terminal" that o…

I have the same problem, and sometimes I'll code with an ageing Thinkpad(just 8 gigs of ram on it and an i5 with pretty bad singe-core perf) on my couch, ssh into my desktop and run Emacs/vim that way. I still have a full environment on my Thinkpad, but the 13" screen means I don't always have my browser open(usually just the one terminal), and if I follow my impulse to open a hundred tabs of docs in a local browser,…

I think there is something about optimizing for comfort.

I've had a standing desk for 8 or 9 years now and I stand probably 75% of the time. When I sit, my chair is not very comfortable but also standing isn't always ideal either. This is while also mixing in 2-3 walks or jogs through out the day.

After working for ~8-9 hours in that environment and being up for 14-15 hours, sometimes when I'm in a vegetable state where I'm laying in bed watching a movie I feel highly motivated to work on something but I don't have a laptop and the thought of getting back up rarely wins.

With that said, I'd say my most productive "programming thoughts" happen right as I wake up and am laying in bed. I often spend 15-20 minutes thinking about exactly how I'll solve something and then get to that during the day. This is for both work and personal projects.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 10:48 PM UTC

jackvalentine wrote: post #54

austin-cheney wrote: post #40

I am not convinced. First let’s be clear that there is minor ADHD which is a world of focus issues and minor distractions, and then there is catastrophic ADHD which is like living through the movie Momento in a world where memories don’t stick. I live in a household with catastrophic ADHD. I really have no idea what minor ADHD is like, but the last thing catastrophic ADHD needs is a gaming experience. A gaming experi…

I don’t wish to be rude but why do you think the author needs to convince you of something regarding what sounds like a very different and difficult circumstance for you?

Seems like they're just offering their perspective. I'm sure the author wanted other perspectives, seeing as they wrote a blog post about it, and then posted it here themselves.