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Re: Infinite Craft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tree + Water = river was also pretty baffling. Unfortunate. I can see the appeal of using an LLM for this but the results are pretty mediocre.

Obviously the prompt to the LLM is just to create the most obvious association. It may not mention "crafting" at all. Maybe it does though. Is there something obvious to craft that uses a tree and water in the process?

To design a game like this you need to do a lot better than just creating the obvious association. It needs a mix of obvious recipes and clever recipes, so that there's challenge and a sense of achievement. Also, there's a starting point. What should the graph look like?

I'm sure Neal has done hard work in getting it right.

Re: Infinite Craft

#464
This is really fun, there's some fun combos which output amusingly strange results.

Some of my first discoveries:

  - Meteor Pot
  - Meteor Soup
  - Meteor Shower Soup
  - Meteor Fish Soup
  - Jabba The Soup-zeus
  - Sith zeus
  - Jabba The Slimer
  - Sonic Chip
  - Cheech The Hedgehog
  - Darth Shrubber
  - Chewbuster
  - Darth Vader Fish Soup
I may have got heavily involved in combining Star Wars items :P

Re: Infinite Craft

#465
Mine has just descended into Darth Maul madness, with an ever increasing number - usually adding them, but Dart Maul 114 + Darth Maul 114 just gave me Darth Maul 134, so it's a 'bit' unpredictable..!

Edit: and it's given up at Darth Maul 1310720000 combining no longer goes higher

Re: Infinite Craft

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post #464

This is really fun, there's some fun combos which output amusingly strange results. Some of my first discoveries: - Meteor Pot - Meteor Soup - Meteor Shower Soup - Meteor Fish Soup - Jabba The Soup-zeus - Sith zeus - Jabba The Slimer - Sonic Chip - Cheech The Hedgehog - Darth Shrubber - Chewbuster - Darth Vader Fish Soup I may have got heavily involved in combining Star Wars items :P

When I added "Bigchicken" to "Beauty and the Chainsaw King", I got "???".

Re: Infinite Craft

#467
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I couldn't find any information but does this use some kind of LLM to derive the combinations from? It makes a request to the backend every time you combine items which sometimes takes >500ms, and also supports some really wild combinations that I highly doubt someone has taken the time to come up with. It would also explain why the icons are emoji's, it would be fairly trivial to ask ChatGPT to give you the result o…

I knew this was powered by an LLM once I crafted both "seahorse" and "sea horse"

Re: Infinite Craft

#468
post #9

I couldn't find any information but does this use some kind of LLM to derive the combinations from? It makes a request to the backend every time you combine items which sometimes takes >500ms, and also supports some really wild combinations that I highly doubt someone has taken the time to come up with. It would also explain why the icons are emoji's, it would be fairly trivial to ask ChatGPT to give you the result o…

An LLM seems like overkill for a project like this. Why not word2vec?

I thought this would be very simple to do, so I tried it. https://silphendio.github.io/word2vec_alchemy/

That simple demo took me way too long and all that time is wasted because word2vec simply sucks for this use-case.

Re: Infinite Craft

#469
Sadly the creator shut it down, but Elemental 3 was basically the same premise, but instead of AI for combinations it had user suggestions and ratings.

He made a video to visualize some of the final data though: https://youtu.be/rQWwfYSUckY

Also I vaguely remember a game with basically the same premise but the goal was to create life.

Re: Infinite Craft

#470

The game state clears on reload, so here's a wee console snippet to export your list of elements: console.log(JSON.stringify({discoveries: window.$nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0]._data.discoveries, elements:window.$nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0]._data.elements})) I'll figure out how to re-import the state later, but it's past midnight for me now.

Thank you!

These were my discoveries:

["Leviathan Shark","Burnzilla","Burnado","Chocolate Tree Shark","Cybersharktopus","Toadatorzilla","Bacon Sharktopusnado","Rainbow Hooktopus","T-48000050","T-48000050","T-19800050","T-19800050","T-64000050","T-83800050","T-83800050","T-121800050","T-121800051","T-185800001","T-185800002","T-185800004","T-185800008","T-82980058","T-121800051 + T-160000"]

Seems like I've stumbled across a self reproducing AI, although the emojis went from robot emoji to universe emoji and then to poop emoji. I wonder at which of those levels of AI we're at currently :p

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