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Re: Apple Vision Pro review

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Post by AlexandrB »

baby wrote: post #96
spogbiper wrote: post #11

What's the killer app? Quest headsets have been out for years and haven't seemed to find one. Well.. besides 3d porn

Video games are the killer apps and Quest definitely found it. The other one that could be huge IMO is attending real-life events like sport, concerts, shows, etc.

Both of these suffer from the fact that a good portion of the target audience is going to want to barf as soon as the camera moves. So games are limited in what kind of gameplay they can offer and real life events are stuck with either a fixed location or "jumping" from camera to camera.

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Post by mtillman »

tunesmith wrote: post #7

One of the aspects of the device that has been under-realized is that when mirroring your desktop/laptop display to the AVP, you can't break out its applications into different areas. You can't pull them away from the desktop window. This is one of those things that Apple never claimed was supported, and yet there's something about that behavior that feels like such a natural intuitive implication to the technology t…

the iPhone debuted without copy/paste. They'll get to it but maybe not immediately.

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Post by bnolsen »

baby wrote: post #96
spogbiper wrote: post #11

What's the killer app? Quest headsets have been out for years and haven't seemed to find one. Well.. besides 3d porn

Video games are the killer apps and Quest definitely found it. The other one that could be huge IMO is attending real-life events like sport, concerts, shows, etc.

Games like doom3 in VR are just freakin' awesome. blasting some monster coming up behind you by firing over the shoulder takes the cake.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review

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Post by AlexandrB »

bnolsen wrote: post #179
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What's the killer app? Movies on airplanes. I’m guessing these will become virtually ubiquitous in the front cabin within a few years.

For international flights they have may have a screen on the back of the seat in front of you. Using a tablet or small laptop works just as well without the discomfort of a headset.

A tablet also takes up less luggage space and probably has better battery life.

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

GeorgeTirebiter wrote: post #171
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #158

For me the two takeways from the various reviews are that: - The Vision Pro is the best VR set that can be done today, with massive investment (rumoured 5e9 USD) and competent staff, and hefty price. It is miles ahead of the competition. - It’s still not enough for most if any practical use, apart from films maybe. The technical requirements for a really useful VR are still largely out-of-reach, and will be for at le…

what does "5md USD" mean? I assume USD = US Dollars but "5md" ? Thank you.

Oops, fixed. I meant 5 billions (5e9), USD is indeed US Dollars.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review

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Post by ericmcer »

devit wrote: post #105

It seems that a lot of basic information is missing in the review: 1. How does it compare to an high-end monitor for text editing/programming, web browsing, watching non-VR video, playing non-VR games? Is it better or not? 2. Is the resolution, latency, FoV and lack of color fringing good enough for it to be indistinguishable from reality in both passthrough and VR modes? If not, how exactly far is it? 3. Can you run…

It does read well as a non-technical review though, where a user would only make note of those things if they were lacking. If the passthrough looked artificial and weird you would imagine that would have come up.

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Post by espositocode »

lysecret wrote: post #51
patapong wrote: post #26

I think we are now at a stage where VR hardware has surpassed software. Between this and the Quest 3, we have powerful, polished and consumer friendly devices, but beyond a few niches (fitness, simulation, gaming to some extent), there is nothing to convince users to put the headsets on. I am hoping we will see a lot of experimentation in the coming years, and I am excited for what the Apple ecosystem will bring to t…

Im curious what do you have in mind related to fitness?

I’m surprised Apple dropped the ball on fitness here given they already have a fitness platform. Imagine rowing in VR and feeling like you’re actually on the water. It would make exercising so much more motivating and interesting.

It turned out the killer Apple Watch feature was fitness, and I don’t see why it couldn’t have been here.

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Post by poulsbohemian »

ghaff wrote: post #34
urda wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually not seeing that and the market numbers don't agree with ya on that. Many less "pro" consumers (not coders or the heavy engineering skew you find here on HN) in my circles have moved away from their traditional Macs as their iPads coupled with their keyboard case of choice or apple pencil (or both) do a lot of their on-the-go.

I've had people at work tell me their kid doesn't want a MacBook because their phone works fine for writing papers. My brain still can't process. I've never made my iPad work for me on a business trip except for something very short where I won't really be writing. I also don't draw and, while I could probably do photo editing on it well enough, I wait until I get home and use old-school Lightroom.

I'd agree with this, with one little carve out... when I was traveling internationally, it was super helpful to have an iPad and be able to slip in a sim card for a local carrier. That plus slightly smaller size made the iPad a better option than carrying my laptop in those specific circumstances.

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Post by [deleted] »

GeorgeTirebiter wrote: post #171
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #158

For me the two takeways from the various reviews are that: - The Vision Pro is the best VR set that can be done today, with massive investment (rumoured 5e9 USD) and competent staff, and hefty price. It is miles ahead of the competition. - It’s still not enough for most if any practical use, apart from films maybe. The technical requirements for a really useful VR are still largely out-of-reach, and will be for at le…

what does "5md USD" mean? I assume USD = US Dollars but "5md" ? Thank you.

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Re: Apple Vision Pro review

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Post by Bluecobra »

GeorgeTirebiter wrote: post #171
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #158

For me the two takeways from the various reviews are that: - The Vision Pro is the best VR set that can be done today, with massive investment (rumoured 5e9 USD) and competent staff, and hefty price. It is miles ahead of the competition. - It’s still not enough for most if any practical use, apart from films maybe. The technical requirements for a really useful VR are still largely out-of-reach, and will be for at le…

what does "5md USD" mean? I assume USD = US Dollars but "5md" ? Thank you.

My guess is that the OP meant to say "5bn USD". I frequently see billion abbreviated to "bn" in UK newspapers such as the Financial Times.
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