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ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
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Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well thank god you'll be spared having colleagues from Gaza since Israel usually cuts off the internet there, because otherwise you'd have seen much worse than someone yelling rockets lol. Also, I'm sure the Ukraine war would've ended if Ukraine would've just surrendered, what's your point? You realize that you could say that for basically every war ever, and that the enemy not surrendering doesn't allow you to commi…
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Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#263Hi All, I am a combat soldier and commander in the IDF currently fighting in Gaza.
We are not committing any genocide. The give away for Genocide is that there are mass graves, which in Gaza there are not.
Yes there is collateral damage because Hamas uses civilians as human shields, so we have no choice but to kill them too, but we do not specifically target them.
We risk ourselves and our soldiers to ensure that the fewest number of non-combatants get killed. We have lost many of our own soldiers because of this. It would be much easier for us to just bomb everything from the air but we dont, because it's less precise than going in on foot.
Personally, as a commander, I would like to say that I have no ill feelings towards the Palestinian people, but we need to get as many of the hostages back as possible, and we cannot allow Hamas to continue ruling Gaza and attacking our civilians as they did on October 7th.
We will continue the fight with them until our military objectives are met, and we will also engage Hizbollah on the northern border for exactly the same reasons (Hamas actually stole their plan and used it on October 7th - Hezbollah had planned to do it in the north but much worse).
Israel is the canary in the coal mine. What happens to us today will happen to you tomorrow, so before you give your full throated support to Hamas, let me ask you, would you want October 7th to happen to your family and friends? If Hamas aren't stopped, that same attack will happen around the world.
Please support us and help rid the world of violent terrorism, and maybe one day, we can all live in peace.
Shabbat Shalom!
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
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I don't believe that this would end if Hamas released their hostages. Ultimately, it would put Palestine back to where they were before October 7th except civilians would be much worse off. Still living under Israeli occupation with limited freedom of movement, limited external assistance, etc. Except now, they'd have no hospitals, no infrastructure, housing, etc. How can a place live Gaza possibly rebuild from that?
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think 10/7 counts as a fight, don’t you?
Maybe you should read what I wrote again. War is an official declaration between nations, not simply a "fight."
Nobody is declaring wars anymore. Technically Russia’s attack on Ukraine is still a „special operation”.
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#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you are suggesting is happening, the collective punishment of a nation for terrorist acts, is a war crime: https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/collect...
Is it a terrorist act if it was performed by a democratically elected government?
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#269Perhaps I am unlearned in this area but I am unclear why the Jewish state, after its people experienced the atrocities of World War II, would act in this manner toward the Palestinians. Can anyone shed light on this? I understand completely the need to rid the world of Hamas terrorists, but in the process they have shown a reckless disregard (to put it mildly) for Palestinian people and their wellbeing.
If you look at the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention's statement [1], they call both the Hamas attack and the current Israeli action Genocidal. They characterise genocidal attacks in terms of not just their factual effect, but the intentional psychological effect of an "massacre of symbols of group life", in which the genocidaires deliberately try to symbolically erase the other group, in ways which are hugely…
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#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well thank god you'll be spared having colleagues from Gaza since Israel usually cuts off the internet there, because otherwise you'd have seen much worse than someone yelling rockets lol. Also, I'm sure the Ukraine war would've ended if Ukraine would've just surrendered, what's your point? You realize that you could say that for basically every war ever, and that the enemy not surrendering doesn't allow you to commi…
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