ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
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Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#2Glad to see Israel face some responsibility for its horrific acts against civilians.
> The court ruled that Israel must do all it can to prevent genocide, including refraining from killing Palestinians or causing harm to them
Sounds like a ceasefire to me. How else would they do this? Definitely not with any of the military tactics Israel is currently using.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#3Under the Rome Statute that set up the international criminal court, apartheid is defined as a crime where:
>inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them".
Netanyahu's approach to the Palestinians likely fits into this definition.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#4Glad to see Israel face some responsibility for its horrific acts against civilians. > The court ruled that Israel must do all it can to prevent genocide, including refraining from killing Palestinians or causing harm to them Sounds like a ceasefire to me. How else would they do this? Definitely not with any of the military tactics Israel is currently using.
I believe the court reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself. Presumably, the "all it can to prevent" wording is meant to work around things we expect a nation must do, such as defending itself from attack.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#5Glad to see Israel face some responsibility for its horrific acts against civilians. > The court ruled that Israel must do all it can to prevent genocide, including refraining from killing Palestinians or causing harm to them Sounds like a ceasefire to me. How else would they do this? Definitely not with any of the military tactics Israel is currently using.
I believe the court reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself. Presumably, the "all it can to prevent" wording is meant to work around things we expect a nation must do, such as defending itself from attack.
It explicitly says they must stop killing Palestinians. None of their current military tactics satisfy this demand.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#6Perhaps I am unlearned in this area but I am unclear why the Jewish state, after its people experienced the atrocities of World War II, would act in this manner toward the Palestinians. Can anyone shed light on this? I understand completely the need to rid the world of Hamas terrorists, but in the process they have shown a reckless disregard (to put it mildly) for Palestinian people and their wellbeing.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#7Perhaps I am unlearned in this area but I am unclear why the Jewish state, after its people experienced the atrocities of World War II, would act in this manner toward the Palestinians. Can anyone shed light on this? I understand completely the need to rid the world of Hamas terrorists, but in the process they have shown a reckless disregard (to put it mildly) for Palestinian people and their wellbeing.
It's not about religion, it's about occupation. Zionists got permission to occupy the land from the British with The Balfour Declaration then started the invasion in full in 1948 with Nakba. When you occupy someone's land, there can never be peace until they get their land back or are fully exterminated or controlled militarily. This is why colonization most often leads to genocide or permanent apartheid.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe the court reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself. Presumably, the "all it can to prevent" wording is meant to work around things we expect a nation must do, such as defending itself from attack.
It explicitly says they must stop killing Palestinians. None of their current military tactics satisfy this demand.
The court referenced article II of the Genocide Convention here, which includes "Killing members of the group." Any country that commits genocide in the way outlined by the convention would be in violation, not just Israel.
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#9Under the Rome Statute that set up the international criminal court, apartheid is defined as a crime where: >inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them". Netanyahu's approach to the Palestinians likely fits into this definition.
> Netanyahu's approach to the Palestinians likely fits into this definition.
Indeed that understanding is corroborated by several human rights organizations, like HRW and Amnesty international:
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/research/2022/02/qa-israel...
Re: ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It explicitly says they must stop killing Palestinians. None of their current military tactics satisfy this demand.
The court referenced article II of the Genocide Convention here, which includes "Killing members of the group." Any country that commits genocide in the way outlined by the convention would be in violation, not just Israel.
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