Anime is a $25B industry that pays its animators pennies

Post by jazzyjackson » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 2:36 AM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #101

lacrimacida wrote: post #93

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Not exactly 100% but high enough to keep greed in check after a certain cap

Why tax income? Wealth should be taxed. The problem is hoarding, not doing valuable work. For example, owning land that is empty or an empty building for years just so it appreciates deprives the community. Tax the shit out of it so it forces the owner to use it productively or sell it so someone else can figure out how to use it productively.

Post by Arainach » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 2:41 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #120

chasing wrote: post #34

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The "if we paid people fairly things would be prohibitively expensive" argument is a terrible one, just to note. First, it rarely seems to actually be the case since the requirement that employees be paid fairly mostly just drives away low-value efforts. It's also an attitude that, if taken to its logical extreme, demands society have an underpaid underclass that suffers so the rest of us can have nice things.

First, there is no such thing as a "fair pay". All of it is driven by demand and supply, always, except when regulations or external factors somehow break things. Second, of course increased costs of production lead to consequences for end users or people who buy the content. We see that all of the time in every industry.

Post by tomcam » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 2:41 AM UTC

lacrimacida wrote: post #93

tomcam wrote: post #85

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Is it your thought that a 100% tax rate would increase the productivity of those being taxed at that rate? Or even leave it unchanged?

Not exactly 100% but high enough to keep greed in check after a certain cap

Post by ekianjo » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 2:42 AM UTC

chasing wrote: post #39

dsugarman wrote: post #13

People have free will; market rate is driven by supply, demand and economics of production and revenue. It's similar to people in the US willing to forfeit their financial future to see taylor swift live and the reseller market understanding and exploiting the market dynamics. Are the resellers the problem? or is it inevitable when people value the financial security of the rest of their lives less than seeing taylor…

They do have free will, but large groups of people are at an extreme negotiating disadvantage versus individuals or small groups that can more easily plan and coordinate -- and who happen to control the resources. This is why we need things like unions and government regulations: Not to unbalance things in favor of workers but to help achieve some amount of balance between owners and employees.

Post by archgoon » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 2:43 AM UTC

soulofmischief wrote: post #118

Apreche wrote: post #9

While the industry as a whole makes a lot, the majority of individual anime and manga make next to nothing. It’s a few very popular properties that make all the dough. If people were paid fairly, most productions would be untenable. There would be just a few anime per year instead of many. But also, how would the popular ones come to be? Every new property would be a huge gamble. As an anime and manga fan, I actually…

> If people were paid fairly, most productions would be untenable. A similar argument was used in favor of perpetuating slavery prior to the civil war. > People just have to accept that means the industry will shrink dramatically. So many things will just never get made. I've accepted that. Now let's pay people fairly for their time and skill. > That also means far fewer people will get to become animators. They’ll h…