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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by tankenmate » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 6:15 PM UTC

tomrod wrote: post #286

gouranga wrote: post #276

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Firstly I will say, I like Microsoft. I'm sitting here on a Win7 laptop (dual boot Ubuntu) and have a Windows Phone next to me. But I don't like the culture that follows it around. I like Ubuntu and see it as a much more positive model and a more extensible, cheaper system. However we have some problems to contend with... Here's how it works where I work (SME - 100 people - UK - Financial sector): Show a user Ubuntu…

Sad. I've used Linux ever since Windows Vista drivers prevented me from making programs full screen without crashing the OS. That was when I said enough. I started with Ubuntu, but the updates always break on me. So now I'm giving a Debian a go. I'm amazed how much like Ubuntu 8.04-9.10 it is--the Gnome 2 desktop is nice and simple. That's unfortunately an option Canonical has taken away from its distro.

If that's the case you might want to have a look at the Debian editions of Mint.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by rbanffy » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 6:18 PM UTC

codexon wrote: post #287

rbanffy wrote: post #250

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I've been playing with it on EC2 and it just works.

I just upgraded from 10.04 and it stopped my 32 bit processes from starting. The ia32-libs package somehow uninstalled itself. When I tried to reinstall it, it installed 300 mb worth of random libs instead of the usual 30.

I'm not sure upgrading servers is the best pattern to use when running on cloud platforms. It's really easy to just launch a new instance and redeploy your software (and make that process as automated as possible)

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by XERQ » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 8:49 PM UTC

nl wrote: post #275

XERQ wrote: post #270

We built and added Ubuntu 12.04 to our provisioning system for cloud servers at SSD Nodes ( http://www.ssdnodes.com ). It boots very quickly on our hypervisors at just 5-10 seconds. /plug

Interesting. I'm pretty sure your claim about the 45,000 IOPs being the most of any SATA SSDs is no longer true. The (consumer grade) Intel 520 SSDs claim 80,000 random write IOPs, and I think I remember seeing the cheaper SATA SSDs on the Dell R720s doing 100K+ (obviously the SAS SSDs do more as do FusionIOs and PCI based express flash) But to bring it back to Ubuntu - do you use the Ubuntu OpenStack distribution or…

You're probably right, it was actually Micron's claim that we used (end of first paragraph: http://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-storage/enterpris...).

They're still ridiculously fast. Once we can justify the expense, I would love to get Fusion-IO's or the Micron P320h's on our platform.

Regarding Ubuntu, we're just using the vanilla Ubuntu 12.04 server distribution for our image templates. Of course, if people wanted OpenStack we would support it and possibly create another template for easy provisioning.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by niels_olson » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 5:09 AM UTC

nebaneba wrote: post #265

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Revorad, I've been looking at the x220t tablet for, wow, a long time. Any experience with these tablets under Ubuntu? Seems like that beastie, with 4G and an SSD, would be pretty nice. Kills me to buy a laptop that ships with Windows, though 1783 OTD seems not too crazy considering I'll probably be sinking a lot of time into tweaking Ubuntu anyway (or maybe suse -- one of the early tablet linux guys worked for Novell…

x201t here, precursor to x220t, running 11.04. Best system ever. Beats the MBP I used before that, and another Windows tablet before that.

tell me more...

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by read_wharf » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 7:19 PM UTC

Ubuntu is more than Unity.

If you don't like or have trouble with Unity, try one of the other Ubuntu variants. I love lubuntu (lxde-based), it's just windows and a panel. Anything that gets between my windows and panel (like Unity) gets thrown over the side without even a wave goodbye. Lubuntu is what xubuntu once aspired to, lightweight and simple.

Here are all the ubuntu variants:

http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/

What is Ubuntu? It's the "easy" Linux distro built on a highly curated version of the debian repository and their apt package system. Mainstream Ubuntu also has Unity. It has a large user base, and a large developer community. It's a nice place to be.

When Unity first hit my laptop, I went running to Mint, only to discover that they've made a search deal. I then looked at other debian-based distros, but I missed ubuntu's curated repository. While flirting with other debians, I discovered lxde, and then lubuntu. I'm there, for now.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by moo » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 9:31 PM UTC

hucker wrote: post #218

revorad wrote: post #50

If you have any issues (in addition to the ones already mentioned by others here), please let me know. If you're interested in buying Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed and fully tested, please sign up here - http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html

Upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 killed my MacBookPro (5,5), it gets stuck on boot. Stopping system V runlevel compatibility shows up and then no more :( With recovery mode it hangs on the screen where you choose whether to boot normally or drop to root shell etc..

Not fun. Upgrading my PC from 11.10 to 12.04 resulted in not being able to boot. Grub giving error "no such partition." LiveCD + running boot-repair seems to have fixed it. I think the devs tinker with the OS too much resulting in breaking things but I just might be getting old and stodgy. With Gnu/Linux there is so many ways to do things there is bound to be a workaround or fix, but I just want the thing to work not be a tinkering nerd with the OS.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by velshin » Sun, Apr 29, 2012, 4:12 PM UTC

moo wrote: post #296

hucker wrote: post #218

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Upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 killed my MacBookPro (5,5), it gets stuck on boot. Stopping system V runlevel compatibility shows up and then no more :( With recovery mode it hangs on the screen where you choose whether to boot normally or drop to root shell etc..

Not fun. Upgrading my PC from 11.10 to 12.04 resulted in not being able to boot. Grub giving error "no such partition." LiveCD + running boot-repair seems to have fixed it. I think the devs tinker with the OS too much resulting in breaking things but I just might be getting old and stodgy. With Gnu/Linux there is so many ways to do things there is bound to be a workaround or fix, but I just want the thing to work not…

The same thing happened during one of my upgrades to 12.04. Grub was hosed.

Here's the fix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125428/grub-complains-of-no-s...

It's ironic that the top voted comment in this thread is about how wonderful Ubuntu is, followed by how we no longer need "ops" for linux, while further down we have problems like this bootloader update failure that no normal user could surmount.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by jmilloy » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 6:50 PM UTC

noahc wrote: post #204

philjackson wrote: post #200

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A post about software being released happens. I made a (small) contribution to that software and mention it. It's subjective as to whether or not I added to the conversation but it's certainly relevant. You've been slightly patronising a couple of times in the thread and, ironically, you've only succeeded in starting meta-conversation.

I agree the meta conversation is of a particularly low value, and it wasn't my intention. Unfortunately, it's towards the top too! I went back and looked for were I was slightly patronizing and the only thing I could find was this line: "So, you had two of your photos chosen for this release or no? Is that rare?" Which I can see how that could be more than slightly patronizing if it was read in a way that I hadn't in…

You were patronizing when you said "You should..."

If you want to know what the process was, why not just ask? If you don't actually care, then just move on.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by jmilloy » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 6:53 PM UTC

revorad wrote: post #155

lucian1900 wrote: post #149

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You could try signing up as an Amazon merchant/seller.

We are signed up. However, Amazon takes a significant cut and we want to keep our prices low.

It seems to me that Amazon is taking a cut in order offer things such as security, customer service, 2 day shipping, etc. If I want to pay a extra for these services for a laptop from your company, why wouldn't you let me?

Can you offer the lower price point on your and a higher price on amazon?

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by moo » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:01 PM UTC

velshin wrote: post #297

moo wrote: post #296

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Not fun. Upgrading my PC from 11.10 to 12.04 resulted in not being able to boot. Grub giving error "no such partition." LiveCD + running boot-repair seems to have fixed it. I think the devs tinker with the OS too much resulting in breaking things but I just might be getting old and stodgy. With Gnu/Linux there is so many ways to do things there is bound to be a workaround or fix, but I just want the thing to work not…

The same thing happened during one of my upgrades to 12.04. Grub was hosed. Here's the fix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125428/grub-complains-of-no-s... It's ironic that the top voted comment in this thread is about how wonderful Ubuntu is, followed by how we no longer need "ops" for linux, while further down we have problems like this bootloader update failure that no normal user could surmount.

Yeah, the Internet is the saving grace for many of these Gnu/Linux distributions for finding bug fixes. The OS should be Gnu/Linux/Internet as it would be a cripple without it.