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Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by dangravell »

nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #185
dangravell wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TwinView also doesn't support rotating one of the screens, which is a show stoppper for me.

Actually, it "does", but it requires some magical incantations, and you end up with a virtual desktop with lots of off-screen pixels, and your desktop/window manager has problems figuring that out. That's why I started using the Nouveau drivers; it fully supports Xrandr, which means you can use the desktop manager's built-in screen rotation abilities.

Thanks for that. I've been meaning to retry the Nouveau drivers... ISTR there was some other thing that they didn't support which is why I don't use them. Guess I'll have to try to re-enable them again to learn what that is.

Ah yes... think I remember now... they didn't like connecting one of my monitors with DisplayPort. Or didn't seem to.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by derrida »

oconnore wrote: post #56

As someone who has been using 12.04 + Unity on my primary work computer since Alpha with minimal issues, this is awesome! It works great! Download it!

Yeah, this was the first beta I've tried that didn't have one major hiccup. Maybe because it's the LTS edition?

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by nl »

XERQ wrote: post #270

We built and added Ubuntu 12.04 to our provisioning system for cloud servers at SSD Nodes ( http://www.ssdnodes.com ). It boots very quickly on our hypervisors at just 5-10 seconds. /plug

Interesting.

I'm pretty sure your claim about the 45,000 IOPs being the most of any SATA SSDs is no longer true.

The (consumer grade) Intel 520 SSDs claim 80,000 random write IOPs, and I think I remember seeing the cheaper SATA SSDs on the Dell R720s doing 100K+ (obviously the SAS SSDs do more as do FusionIOs and PCI based express flash)

But to bring it back to Ubuntu - do you use the Ubuntu OpenStack distribution or what?

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by gouranga »

gitarr wrote: post #86

I have been at a clients location with my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop today. The "IT guy" there and all the other (non IT) office staff asked me what this is and how they could get it. I had to do a full 15 minutes of explanations about Ubuntu. You cannot imagine the looks after I told them it is free.

Firstly I will say, I like Microsoft. I'm sitting here on a Win7 laptop (dual boot Ubuntu) and have a Windows Phone next to me.

But I don't like the culture that follows it around.

I like Ubuntu and see it as a much more positive model and a more extensible, cheaper system. However we have some problems to contend with...

Here's how it works where I work (SME - 100 people - UK - Financial sector):

Show a user Ubuntu - "ooh that's really nice - feels better than windows".

Show a dev/architect Ubuntu - "yeah we already use it at home for everything and we run a few VMs without letting operations know - want me to friend you on bitbucket?"

User approaches operations for a test machine - "NO!" and a load of FUD about how Linux is cancer and Microsoft is Jesus' sandals and "I'll replace you with a very small powershell script (if I can get the signing right)".

Dev/architect approaches operations for a test machine - "NO!" then silence with no attempt to get into a discussion.

Any discussion raised ends up with the "we're a microsoft shop and that's not going to change".

This is the same company which runs everything on ESX which is Linux underneath, has Linux-based virtual firewall and load balancer appliances, uses Linux-based Android phones, Unix-based iOS devices everywhere and ironically runs it's entire phone system on Linux.

At the other extreme, we have to run memcached on windows otherwise ops will get all antsy.

Clueless monocultural operations teams that want to protect their worth are who are causing serious problems.

We need some marketing tied to "you dont need an ops team anymore" or "cheaper, more efficient ops teams are possible with Linux" (which they are) and you will get somewhere.

This is the THIRD place I've seen this now so it's rife.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by mise »

scott_w wrote: post #145
mise wrote: post #93

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Yup, this thread is interesting. An Ubuntu release, and I haven't read many complaints about Unity thus far down the page. They lost me to Mint in their last couple of releases.

It's possible that you've just explained it: The people for who it became such a problem have already migrated away. I don't have any numbers for that, but even if it's a small shift, then it could be that most people weren't too fussed anyway.

That's a good insight. Being as fickle, I may indeed be back to Unity at some point :)

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by mise »

Peaker wrote: post #198
octopus wrote: post #159

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We as humans and programmers are creatures of habit, Unity by being a relatively new technology will break some habits in our work ritual. Give it a few years and nobody will complain about this.

I don't think Unity is simply different. At least as of 11.10, it was different and objectively worse.

So the question is, has 12.04 made a leap in the right direction, enough for it to be at least as good?

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by rbanffy »

revorad wrote: post #266
rbanffy wrote: post #247

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This comment is no longer valid because the Ubuntu button is on the launcher itself.

You're right. I'll look into it and see if there's an easy way to switch sides now without breaking anything.

If you do, let us know.

I miss the NeXT feel of having it on the right.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by keithpeter »

Random_Person wrote: post #237
keithpeter wrote: post #236

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Campus wifi? A central server running Moodle as the VLE in each school? It could work very well for them. The further education college in which I work has Windows, but they have installed GIMP, Inkscape, Audacity college wide. Some great work with Audacity, people find GIMP a bit harder. Inkscape isn't used much (but then neither is Adobe Illustrator).

Most of the larger schools (Middle/High) already have campus wide wifi. Some of the larger elementary schools do as well. The big push right now is for VM Ware. Some of the counties are going to a district-wide WAN for serving up VMs from a central NOC.

That sounds great. Wifi/Internet enabled netbooks in a class one to a group can encourage discussion and carefully planned research if the teacher just thinks through the pedagogy a bit.
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