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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#201

Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...

> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around…

Hibernate actually works on many people's computers, to see if does on yours, test it at the cmdline:

$> sudo pm-hibernate

Then turn it back on. If everything works ok, you can permanently add it back to the system menu with these scripts:

https://github.com/repos-ubuntu/tweaks

Need two files:

https://github.com/repos-ubuntu/tweaks/blob/master/reenable-...

https://github.com/repos-ubuntu/tweaks/blob/master/reenable-...

Instructions and links to more detailed instructions in the .sh comments.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#202
post #96

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Do you know why the launcher still can't be moved to the other side of the screen? Does it have to do with the idea that Ubuntu will also run on mobile devices?

Apparently, it's against Ubuntu's broader design goals, which require the launcher always close to the Ubuntu button: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415/comments/2 There are some unofficial plugins which allow you to do it, but that will break future bug updates.

When the benign dictator states that they're choosing aesthetics over functionality I know the project has stopped being useful to me.

I understand the need for a clear vision, but I have no idea why they cannot (and refuse to) allow a configuration option for this. Even if it's a line in a config file.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Boot from the disk and tell it to upgrade your 11.10 installation, saving your /home folder and so on. I did exactly this on two workstations and found it works quite well ..

Is there any reason why you choose to boot from a disk? Normally you can upgrade from within your own installation without problems.

I just boot from disk so I can get the upgrade done as quickly as possible. This way, my machine does everything it needs to upgrade, without anything else going on. Then when its done, I let it update in the background while I make sure everything went smoothly.

In this case, it went very smoothly for me, and was worth the hassle. I upgraded from Ubuntu 11.04, which had been rather a bit of a mess actually, in the Unity/Gnome3/fvwm shell department, as in I had them all and had to switch around to get certain things I liked. Unity crashed too often (in 11.04) for me to trust it.

That has all changed. I am now running Ubuntu studio, which features fvwm, and nothing else. Gnome only if I truly need it, and Unity .. after the dust settles.

So I'm quite comfortable in my upgrade to 12.04, and everything works like it should - full multi-channel digital audio, multi-monitor support with acceleration, and so on.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#204
post #181

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I don't think he should feel obligated to deliver. But, I think comments should generally add to the conversation. If they don't, I tend to down vote them.

A post about software being released happens. I made a (small) contribution to that software and mention it. It's subjective as to whether or not I added to the conversation but it's certainly relevant. You've been slightly patronising a couple of times in the thread and, ironically, you've only succeeded in starting meta-conversation.

I agree the meta conversation is of a particularly low value, and it wasn't my intention. Unfortunately, it's towards the top too!

I went back and looked for were I was slightly patronizing and the only thing I could find was this line: "So, you had two of your photos chosen for this release or no? Is that rare?" Which I can see how that could be more than slightly patronizing if it was read in a way that I hadn't intended it to be.

What I was trying to say is that for a project as big as Ubuntu, having two photos chosen seems to be a big deal. I didn't realize this when I originally down voted you, and I just wanted clarity.

In any case it was never my intention to be patronizing, so I'm sorry for coming across that way.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#205

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It's possible that you've just explained it: The people for who it became such a problem have already migrated away. I don't have any numbers for that, but even if it's a small shift, then it could be that most people weren't too fussed anyway.

We as humans and programmers are creatures of habit, Unity by being a relatively new technology will break some habits in our work ritual. Give it a few years and nobody will complain about this.

I found Unity awkward at first, but I put in a few days' honest effort to learn to shortcuts and try to work as the designers intended me to, and it improved my desktop efficiency quite a bit, and removed a fair bit of clutter compared to Gnome 2. I like Gnome Shell too for the same reasons.

That said, Unity was buggy in 11.04, and only somewhat less so in 11.10, and I still find myself having to occasionally escape to a terminal and restart Unity after it freezes up. I'm hoping 12.04 is better.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#206

I really can't stand Unity. Does this work OK with Cinnamon, for example?

I keep trying Unity every once in a while, but I always find it difficult to bring up exactly the right window I want. So I go back to Gnome, which has the task bar where I can simply click something to maximize it, and click it again to minimize it.

I'm gonna try Unity again, because I want to like it, but I always find myself getting angry at the "application-centric" grouping of my open windows, and how when it zooms out and I click the window I want, all sorts of other things I'm using become obscured.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#207
post #50

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I know of System76 and etc, but their hardware doesn't inspire me much (spoiled by Apple).

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#209

Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...

> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around…

That probably just means the 'hibernate' option was removed from the dialogs. You should still be able to invoke it from the power management tools via a terminal. I'm not on ubuntu but does this still work:

'pmi action hibernate'

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