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Not sure why they felt they needed their own hardware for this. They could have built it for multiple platforms to get more traction / usage.
How do companies like this get funding? Do they get it before even having a prototype?
So many questions. Is this a YC company? Did they apply? Does anyone know anything about them at all? It just screams scam to me. Who would give them $200 for vapor? [Edit: I have been told the device has been demoed in a comment below, so perhaps it might be real.] Let’s say Apple were to do this. Apple would take years to get it right but when they announced it would be with a date with an accuracy to within a cert…
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Don't know the current status.
$199 with no subscription? You must have to bring your own data sim card. Or can it get its connection from your phone? And is the AI stuff running locally on the device? Impressive if so. Suspicious if not; there's no way the service remains free forever. Pretty compelling price, and I'm certain the vision of AI agents that can use any existing app or website to take actions on your behalf is the future of computing…
The AI runs on their cloud. It's unfortunate but the industry is only starting to catch onto on-device models language models.
i mean there are technical limitations and tradeoffs to running LLM-size models locally. doesnt help to ascribe it to lack of foresight when it is a known Hard Problem.
The Android crowd, the Apple gang, etc... Once you are member of one ecosystem, friction is high enough usually to keep you in.
Moreover, many of the eco-customers wear more than one device.. phone, watch ...
So... why would I buy into yet another ecosystem with a third device to carry?
And no... most eco-clients will not abandon their current ecosystem that easily.
The 360 degree camera is quite nice, though...
This landing page is an utter failure. I can’t believe this got past anyone. I’ve read the whole thing and I still have no idea what it does or what problem it solves. I’m not watching a Keynote to find out either. Who made this?
This seems like one of the least expensive things Teenage Engineering has done.
Same street price as the play.date, similar form factor? Both by Teenage Engineering. [1]: https://play.date
This landing page is an utter failure. I can’t believe this got past anyone. I’ve read the whole thing and I still have no idea what it does or what problem it solves. I’m not watching a Keynote to find out either. Who made this?
Teenage Engineering is always like this. The hardware looks really cool (aesthetically I mean; no value judgment on quality or such) but they seem to have looked at Apple presentations and though those are not pretentious enough.
The design is by Teenage Engineering but is not sold by them.
I am almost never a hater on people trying ambitious things, but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. You've got absolutely insane market saturation by two major players that have some of the most advanced AI teams on the planet. Almost nobody is going to buy an "LLM-first phone," they will just wait for Apple or Google to put an LLM into their existing phone.
Even if Google builds something like this, gets market share and sells at a profit, it might still be a net loss for them because of all the advertising money and click tracking data they won't be getting.
Google definitely has the expertise to build this, but they also have an extremely risk-averse attitude resulting in layers upon layers of bureaucracy, and this product is literally cannibalizing their most important markets. I can't see this going over very well at all the internal reviews.
Apple was a lot leaner than Google when they build the iPhone (which was also cannibalizing one of their main products, the iPod), but they still had to make a completely independent team with no oversight except for Steve Jobs to get it right.
We also know how bad Google is at hardware. They seem to have gotten marginally better in recent years, but Pixels are still far from successful, even in countries where they are sold, which honestly isn't that many in the first place.
I'm very bearish on Google in this fight. Apple probably stands a much better chance, they've already proven they can cannibalize their own products, they need to do far less of that in the first place, as most of their revenue comes from hardware sales and subscriptions (which is perfect for something like this), they do have a lot of hardware expertise and they've already made major steps towards AR glasses, which might end up as a better form factor for such a device than a phone. Their pro-privacy attitude might be an impediment, this stuff works a lot better if you run it on a beefy GPU in the cloud instead of a tiny, battery-conserving chip in your phone, but I hope they find a good enough compromise.