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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by annexrichmond »

nusl wrote: post #111
scblock wrote: post #100

How can you so badly fail at even saying what the hell this is on your shitty glossy web site? What is this? The page is just a list of hardware 'features' with large but unclear pictures. "push to talk button" ok, so? "far-field mike" ok, so? "360 degree rotational eye" so what? "analog scroll wheel" that does what? "usb-c plus sim card slot" which gives me what? There's a video but I shouldn't have to watch a video…

This is a bit harsh. I feel that you can figure out what the device is before even scrolling. It’s a companion device that you can interact with to get assistance with various things, and the features you mention are how it gets instructions and information.

I wasn't able to figure out what this device is or what it's for from their home page. I did get a better idea by reading the HN comments though.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by pmuse »

Cool product but I agree with others that their site does not really demonstrate the value proposition of the device in a clear way. You shouldn't have to watch the keynote to understand what it is.

I also have a hard time believing it will work as well as they say it does gen-1 at a $200 price point. I'm very skeptical.

The teenage engineering design is nice though, looks like something out of the movie Her.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by modeless »

$199 with no subscription? You must have to bring your own data sim card. Or can it get its connection from your phone? And is the AI stuff running locally on the device? Impressive if so. Suspicious if not; there's no way the service remains free forever.

Pretty compelling price, and I'm certain the vision of AI agents that can use any existing app or website to take actions on your behalf is the future of computing. But there's no room in my pocket for a second device. I don't see how a device is going to succeed when an equivalent app for existing phones seems around the corner.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by dingnuts »

scblock wrote: post #100

How can you so badly fail at even saying what the hell this is on your shitty glossy web site? What is this? The page is just a list of hardware 'features' with large but unclear pictures. "push to talk button" ok, so? "far-field mike" ok, so? "360 degree rotational eye" so what? "analog scroll wheel" that does what? "usb-c plus sim card slot" which gives me what? There's a video but I shouldn't have to watch a video…

well, it tells me enough: the only input method is the mic, so you cannot silently enter any input into this device. I don't need everyone around me to hear my Kagi searches or text messages dictated to my device. So, it's not for me.

Since it's all cloud-based and has a far-field mic, I would also ask people around me not to use this device, if they had one, and turn it off if they are around me.

As far as I can tell, this product is just a bugging device.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by radicalbyte »

josephwegner wrote: post #117

How in the world are they going to make money on this? Perhaps the hardware is cheap to manufacture, but with no subscription I feel like they are going to get taken to the cleaner on LLM API fees. Even if they're running the LLM themselves, it's not cheap. Could they really be getting enough margin on the device to pay their staff _and_ all of that infra? Or maybe this is another VC-backed sale price :)

Loss leader and data collection play?

EDIT: it's 100% the razor model, they want the device out there so they own your interaction with "service providers"; i.e. they take a cut of everything to do. Middle men.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by threatofrain »

modeless wrote: post #123

$199 with no subscription? You must have to bring your own data sim card. Or can it get its connection from your phone? And is the AI stuff running locally on the device? Impressive if so. Suspicious if not; there's no way the service remains free forever. Pretty compelling price, and I'm certain the vision of AI agents that can use any existing app or website to take actions on your behalf is the future of computing…

The AI runs on their cloud. It's unfortunate but the industry is only starting to catch onto on-device models language models.
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