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True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Bullcrap you can. Once my hormones kicked in I was able to blend in so well that some of my friends didn’t believe me when I said I was trans. And I got that confirmed from a third party who is honest beyond a fault. And there’s a world of difference between crisscrossing and being transgendered.

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Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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The terminology makes me laugh and I think of schismatic churches. If you investigate the seedy underbelly of Eastern Orthodoxy, you will find many splinter groups which claim that the main bodies have committed apostasy and lost the faith. Therefore these small, schismatic groups, sometimes with limited clergy resources, will name themselves "True Orthodox" or "Really Truly Orthodox and We Mean It This Time". Genera…

> It's a bizarre concept that someone should have a "True Name" that's truer than their legally recorded name(s) and truer still than the names which they were given by their legal parents

Why use a name someone else gave you if you don’t like it anymore ? What prevents us from changing it ?

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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tl;dr: Mastercard: "We've found that some people's name could different from what their government ID says their name is, and offer a solution for that problem" Many HN commenters: "I don't have this problem, therefore it isn't a real problem"

Because it's a bad hack. If you want to change your name you should change it with the government, not each individual company.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Mastercard implement a local fix for the government-docs-has-wrong-name problem, that is available today. That's great! Now you can go and advocate to solve the government problem. And tbh, calling elected representatives is a much better use of our time than posting on this website.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Not living in north america, there's something i must be missing - who looks at the name on a credit card? who even touches your credit card anymore? in europe and uk you're either contactless or you're given the terminal to enter your card yourself, and I'm 99% certain the "name" that is written on the card never comes up on screen

Where I’m from (Southeast Asia), mostly in malls they will ask for your government ID along with your credit card.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Step 1. Go to google news or whatever news aggregation website you want. Step 2. Search for "transgender attack". Step 3. Take some time to digest the horrible news you're reading. Step 4. Try to figure out the common thread between these stories. The people in question usually get outed in public during some kind of ID check, and got jumped by some intolerant moron who witnessed it. This is happening. Today. Includi…

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Imagine there’s a chance that you might be wrong. How would you possibly know the false negatives (the ones you “missed”)?

Good point, I guess they could also be Men In Black aliens too and I wouldn’t know that either.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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> the clerk looked at him with suspicion and questioned his card, which was still printed with the name he had used before transitioning

> A quarter of those surveyed say they have not changed their gender marker on their formal ID, discouraged by the expensive and time-consuming process

So you change your name on your card, while having a government ID with a different name. And that’s supposed to make things less suspicious?

I mean, and this is comical, but trans people change their identity, and credit cards from last century partly outsources their fraud prevention by having merchants verify said identity. Wouldn’t it be better to, you know, remove the part where merchants have to do that? How about I authenticate with the payment provider instead of some random store clerk? I don’t want the merchant to even see my name at all. Principle of least privilege.

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From the OP: >but we should stop encouraging and accommodating this “everything makes me feel unsafe” attitude. It harms everyone when we redefine safety to include awkwardness or very minor psychological discomfort. It's pretty clear that the thing he's objecting to is the inflation of "feel unsafe" to include "awkwardness or very minor psychological discomfort", which might draw attention to the issue in the short…

Who are you (or OP) to tell someone how they should or should not feel. If someone says they feel unsafe, maybe we should default to believing them rather than minimising them. A tiny bit of compassion and empathy goes a long way.

>If someone says they feel unsafe, maybe we should default to believing them rather than minimising them. A tiny bit of compassion and empathy goes a long way.

Okay but surely you must agree that there are limits to how much we as a society should believe? Portraying yourself as being oppressed is an effective way to garner sympathy and resources from society, so people are incentivized to use language that makes their plight seem worse. That's not to say everyone making such claims are acting in bad faith, or even misrepresenting their internal feelings, but we can't take everyone's statements at face value either.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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trans* people aren't crossdressers, and no, you wouldn't. Pick a random thirst-trap influencer: on almost every post on their TikTok or Insta you'd see multiple comments suggesting they are trans . Simply, there isn't a way to tell because as there is no biological marker that is a binary, as much as some would like to believe otherwise. Sex is a bimodal distribution, and as such there are people, cis and trans , tha…

Sex is not bimodal, it’s binary. We as a society have to be able to just get past this. I, for example, am a male (sex) - but I identify as a woman (gender identity). These two things can be true at the same time, and do not conflict.
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