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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by belltaco »

diggan wrote: post #146
ripjaygn wrote: post #98

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> BYD are selling the most cars, and is the fastest growing in terms of sales in the country Source? BYD aren't selling the most cars in Sweden. > BYD beat Tesla - grew fastest in Sweden in 2023 Tesla sold 20K cars and BYD sold 3K in Sweden in 2023. How is that beating Tesla? They went from 1.1K cars to 3K, so had better percentage growth than Tesla

From one of the links in the comment you're replying to: > Det är i det sista kvartalet 2023 som BYD kan stoltsera med bättre siffror än Tesla. BYD rapporterar att de sålt 526 409 elbilar från och med oktober och fram till årets slut. > Teslas försäljning å sin sida slog rekord och blev den högsta för ett givet kvartal i tillverkarens historia. Resultatet blev 484 507 bilar. 41 902 färre än BYD. --- > It is in the la…

Just because it's in Swedish doesn't mean those are Sweden numbers :)

Tesla outsold BYD in Sweden 6 times over.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by piva00 »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #152
piva00 wrote: post #140

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> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted blanket monopolies on economic control. Is it even much of a player there yet? Unions don't have blanket monopolies on economic control, that's absolute bullshit... I see quite a few BYDs here in Sweden. My girlfriend even got one as a rental some 3-6 months ago.

They were able to stop Tesla from sending vehicle registrations in the mail. That is very powerful control of economy, if not speech.

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by sangnoir »

alamortsubite wrote: post #133
joshuanapoli wrote: post #4

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It also has a gasoline engine.

Which the article says shuts down immediately when the vehicle starts floating. So maybe it mostly serves as the same reverse status symbol as snorkels on other SUV.

The vehicle also wades in water up to 1000mm (1400mm when lifted), so that snorkel may be useful under those conditions and not when floating.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by belltaco »

diggan wrote: post #42
samr71 wrote: post #30

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If he was willing to work with the rules and norms of the markets they want to enter, they'd sell even fewer cars. If they had to deal with the same regulations and IP laws as China, they'd sell more.

> If he was willing to work with the rules and norms of the markets they want to enter, they'd sell even fewer cars Well, as it stands right now, BYD looks to be the more popular option in countries like Sweden just because Musk refuses to do what every other single company does in the country. Even Amazon found a way to work in a way that the common person is protected, why can't Tesla?

> Well, as it stands right now, BYD looks to be the more popular option in countries like Sweden just because Musk refuses to do what every other single company does in the country

No it's not, where are you getting your data from? Not to mention jumping to conclusions.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by Briq7 »

dmoy wrote: post #77
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #72

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> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

Top 20 new cars sales in Norway for 2023

Tesla Model Y: 23.088 cars (18,2 percent) Volkswagen ID.4: 6614 cars (5,2 percent) Skoda Enyaq: 5740 cars (4,5 percent) Toyota bZ4X: 5395 cars (4,2 percent) Volvo XC40: 5025 cars (4,0 percent) Ford Mustang Mach-E: 3792 cars (3,0 percent) Toyota Yaris: 3582 cars (2,8 percent) Toyota RAV4: 3457 cars (2,7 percent) Volkswagen ID.3: 3141 cars (2,5 percent) Hyundai Kona: 2991 cars (2,4 percent) Audi Q4 e-tron: 2688 cars (2,1 percent) Nissan Ariya: 2606 cars (2,1 percent) Nissan Leaf: 2471 cars (1,9 percent) BMW iX1: 2415 cars (1,9 percent) Tesla Model 3: 2083 cars (1,6 percent) Toyota Corolla: 1911 cars (1,5 percent) Polestar 2: 1832 cars (1,4 percent) BMW i4: 1782 cars (1,4 percent) MG4: 1622 cars (1,3 percent) Audi Q8 e-tron: 1602 cars (1,3 percent)

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by belltaco »

Veserv wrote: post #137
belltaco wrote: post #69

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Musk and Tesla opened up EV patents to help other car companies make and sell EVs, more EVs are getting into the hands of people so that's a good thing. https://sustainablebrands.com/read/behavior-change/tesla-ope...

That is just a lie their marketing department tells to make themselves look better thinking people will not look further. Their actual pledge: https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#patent-pled... States you can use Tesla patents if you agree to let Tesla use your patents, rip-off your products, make counterfeits, and steal your trade secrets. That is worse than standard patent reciprocity agreements and I…

> rip-off your products, make counterfeits, and steal your trade secrets.

Not seeing that in your link, can you quote the relevant parts or cite better sources?

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by buran77 »

gambiting wrote: post #132
manmal wrote: post #120

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Both can do 1k km on 75l, so apart from the Volvo‘s smaller battery, where‘s the difference for the end user? I think it’s a waste of materials to build such cars, but given the weight the consumption seems impressive.

Both cars are plug in hybrids - you need to charge them externally to get the most out of them. BYD needs literally 5x the electricity of the Volvo(50kWh Vs 10kWh) for the same range, so the owner is definitely going to notice it on their energy bill.

> BYD needs literally 5x the electricity of the Volvo(50kWh Vs 10kWh) for the same range

Which "same range"? Did you just calculate electric efficiency using the total range including gasoline? In that case your PHEV needs an infinite times the electricity of a car driving on gasoline alone.

If anything on paper the U8 is 10% more efficient (Volvo says 50km from the 15kWh battery, not 10kWh). With gasoline factored in you have two vehicles with equal 1000km range despite the U8 being significantly heavier.

You can argue that the CLTC isn't nearly as accurate as the WLTP and you'd be right but you still need to check your math and/or logic above.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by Gigachad »

alamortsubite wrote: post #126
resolutebat wrote: post #108

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It can only do the 360 deg turn while floating , which rather limits its utility.

At the end of the article there's an embedded video showing the vehicle doing a tank turn on pavers. The tire manufacturers will love it.

Is tank turn common terminology? I’ve seen skid steer used for this kind of thing on the digger vehicles.
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