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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

What would new leadership really do? Make a T-150?

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> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted blanket monopolies on economic control. Is it even much of a player there yet? Unions don't have blanket monopolies on economic control, that's absolute bullshit... I see quite a few BYDs here in Sweden. My girlfriend even got one as a rental some 3-6 months ago.

They were able to stop Tesla from sending vehicle registrations in the mail. That is very powerful control of economy, if not speech.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Not anymore. That was the thing the last time this was (erroneously) reported.

incorrect. BYD sold 1,574,822 battery electric vehicles in 2023. Tesla sold 1,808,581 https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/sehk/2024/0101/... https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/tesla-sold-1-8-million-...

Over the year yes, but BYD outsold Tesla in Q4 (pure BEV). That's what's been doing the news rounds this week.

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Obvious reason is immediate tire wear?

I think I wasn't being clear, the wheels basically have to rotate perpendicularly to the cars body, so there wouldn't be any extra tire wear.

What? If left wheels are in reverse and right wheels in forward then the treads are wearing sideways against the rotation!

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

Musk Derangement Syndrome on the first comment about a different car company making a very interesting product. I also saw this in comments in articles about Boeing and Toyota this week.

Is there a browser mod to hide comments like this? Bonus points if it hides the snide demoralization-style comments that have started infesting HN too ("Oh you are a software engineer? Let me tell you why you are ignorant without knowing anything about you")

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A 4 ton thing doing this on the trails I go on would destroy them. I hope people don't actually do it.

In my past times off-roading, trails and dirt roads have usually been very generous with places to turn. Not so much when you are off a trail or a road.

Exactly, and unless you are on private property or BLM land you are also generally not supposed to be driving off the trails or roads. So there isn't much use for this other than on private property or on BLM land.

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In my past times off-roading, trails and dirt roads have usually been very generous with places to turn. Not so much when you are off a trail or a road.

Exactly, and unless you are on private property or BLM land you are also generally not supposed to be driving off the trails or roads. So there isn't much use for this other than on private property or on BLM land.

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In my past times off-roading, trails and dirt roads have usually been very generous with places to turn. Not so much when you are off a trail or a road.

Exactly, and unless you are on private property or BLM land you are also generally not supposed to be driving off the trails or roads. So there isn't much use for this other than on private property or on BLM land.

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They edited that in after I asked for sources instead of putting it in a reply, and didn't mark it as a later edit. Can't google something that's not there. Not to mention google shows that Tesla sales increased in Sweden in Nov and December 2023 compared to the same months in 2022.

You asked for an example, I gave you the last example I am aware of: https://apnews.com/article/tesla-strike-union-sweden-labor-d... .

> About 130 mechanics at 10 Tesla garages across Sweden walked off the job on Oct. 27 over the company’s refusal to sign a collective bargaining agreement

This is false reporting, only 10 to 30 of the 130 mechanics "walked off the job". The rest like their stock options and performance based pay hikes instead of the union table rates for all.

> About 130 mechanics at 10 Tesla garages across Sweden walked off the job on Oct. 27 over the company’s refusal to sign a collective bargaining agreement

This is false reporting, only 10 to 30 of the 130 mechanics "walked off the job". The rest like their stock options and performance based pay hikes instead of the union table rates for all. A lot of other news outlets picked up this false narrative.

The number of striking Tesla mechanics is so low that IF Metall refuses to reveal how many are striking, and recently expelled some Tesla employees for not obeying their power play of striking.

https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/tesla-teknikern-jobbar-trot...

https://www.na.se/2023-11-16/tesla-ar-den-basta-arbetsgivare...

A lot of other news outlets picked up this false narrative from AP and reporting that 130 employees are striking.

The number of striking Tesla mechanics is so low that IF Metall refuses to reveal how many are striking, and recently expelled some Tesla employees for not obeying their power play of striking.

Recently the NYT finally said only a few dozen are striking. Sad to see previously trustworthy news outlets like AP resorting to abject fake news to smear Tesla and spread a narrative. And it's spread and repeated on places like HN with no critical thinking or research.

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