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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by senkora »

kccqzy wrote: post #59
Etheryte wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

You are choosing an example from more than a decade ago, at a time when not even Chinese people chose BYD vehicles. To wit the S8 sold 103 units. Things have changed. You are ignoring the fact that plenty of BYD's vehicles are already marketed and sold in Europe, other Asian countries, and Australia.

Extremely anecdotally, I saw their vehicles on display at a mall in Costa Rica.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by lambdasquirrel »

hgomersall wrote: post #73
tetris11 wrote: post #9

Climate change will cause tons of flooding. I wont be surprised at the people who jump at a car like this.

Cue idiots that think they can drive across a river in spate because they can float.

I’d also worry about how well the car’s bottom deals with underwater obstructions. And of course that people who own this car would engage in the same sort of shenanigans that we see with Tesla Autopilot.

The car’s interior is a welcome bit of originality compared to the styling in the usual high-end offerings.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

This kind of car pretty important for China. They are still way behind on drainage in major cities, it isn’t uncommon to see under road passes flooded during heavy spring rains. Japan would have the same problem, but they’ve sunk billions into drainage, the Tokyo drainage system is a world wonder at this point.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by onetom »

diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

I would be cautious believing these stats... How much of those sales are real ones? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEfwoqKRU8

Their hybrid cars has serious problems, including catching fire on their own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXrsmYQvK8E

It's not like Tesla didn't have issues, but not so serious and numerous ones.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

dmoy wrote: post #77
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

Does BYD use a dealership model in sweden like they do in China? If so, they would just outsource all of those issues to local parties.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by adventured »

cowboyscott wrote: post #80
Etheryte wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

> In 2009 the car sold in 96 units, and only seven cars were sold in the full 2010 fiscal year. Production has now ceased. In all, the car sold in only 103 units This is like saying we should ignore Tesla because the only car they sold in 2009 was a rip-off Lotus. Speaking as an American, I'd love to see what the presence of low-end (say, $10k range) autos would do to traffic laws and city planning.

> This is like saying we should ignore Tesla because the only car they sold in 2009 was a rip-off Lotus.

No it's not like saying that. Lotus had a deal with Tesla.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/lotus-position

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by lambdasquirrel »

roughly wrote: post #70
bink wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it come with a propeller and rudder? What's the point of floating if you have no control over where you end up?

It’s often better than sinking. They do say it can propel itself at 3km/hr and also turn in the water by spinning the wheels.

3km / hr does not get you very far if you’re paddling against a current. I hope that no one abuses the feature or use it to do the dumb things people often do when they see a flooded road.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by moffkalast »

osti wrote: post #6

It can also do 360 degree self centered turn, which should be useful. No more 3 point turns! Given the flexibility of installing the motors, I've always wondered why electric cars still can't move in a parallel way. That should be very handy when parallel parking.

Presumably because the typical EV is already priced uncompetitively enough without two extra rear wheel steering servos that would allow for it.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by adventured »

JDDunn9 wrote: post #78
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

Electric vehicles are more heavily subsidized in China than America. 22% of new car sales in China are electric vs 1% in America. China also has a lot of tariffs and regulations preventing foreign competition.

> 22% of new car sales in China are electric vs 1% in America

Where are you getting 1% from? That's off by a drastic amount.

"EV sales climb and are on track to be 9% of US new car purchases in 2023"

"U.S. sales of hybrid, plug-in hybrid and battery-electric vehicles reached 17.7% of new light-duty vehicle sales in the third quarter"

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/electric-vehicles-EVs-new-c...

https://apnews.com/article/automakers-electric-vehicles-us-c...

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by jandrese »

gambiting wrote: post #56
bink wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rivian advertised this feature as well but disabled it, for obvious reasons.

What's the reason? It's not obvious to me at all, sorry.

It shreds your tires.
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