BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

Post by diggan » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:02 PM UTC

belltaco wrote: post #52

diggan wrote: post #43

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> Like what? Source(s)? Added a link that gives you some additional context.

> Added a link that gives you some additional context. Tesla sold 55% more cars in Nov 2023 compared to Nov 2022, and 9% more in December, so how is that Tesla's downfall? https://carup.se/trots-strejken-tesla-far-ut-fler-bilar-i-sv... https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-... Edit: Ran into the posting limit but the below is certainly false about Sweden, BYD is not selling the most cars there.…

Post by diggan » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:03 PM UTC

belltaco wrote: post #55

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #44

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Well, the last example is unions in Sweden. I‘m sure you can google that yourself?

They edited that in after I asked for sources instead of putting it in a reply, and didn't mark it as a later edit. Can't google something that's not there. Not to mention google shows that Tesla sales increased in Sweden in Nov and December 2023 compared to the same months in 2022.

Post by gzer0 » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:04 PM UTC

diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

Post by woobar » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:05 PM UTC

Etheryte wrote: post #17

diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

Post by belltaco » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:05 PM UTC

diggan wrote: post #54

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Included in the stat are $10K cars sold in China, maybe Tesla doesn't want to compete in the extreme low end just like Apple doesn't make $150 phones. Being a profitable barely #2 in a large and growing market is somehow fucking up? If you are world #2 in your field of work do you consider yourself a failure and that you fucked up? That's a sad existence.

> If you are world #2 in your field of work do you consider yourself a failure and that you fucked up? That's a sad existence. Personally, I wouldn't, I don't care what "position" I'm at, as long as I have enough. But I'm fairly sure that Musk would take that as a failure, especially if you've been #1 for a bunch of quarters and suddenly you aren't. (Musk has repeated many times that he wants Tesla to be the biggest…