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How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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"kitchen-table" polyamory is somewhat less frequent, although difficult to negotiate away if folks have kids in the picture.

"kitchen-table" polyamory does not imply that partner(s) are intimately involved with one-another. Just that they can amicably share the same space at times, whether that be a birthday party, a friendly dinner, or board game night. Personally I would hope that any partner(s) feel comfortable speaking to one another and being in the same space if the situation merits it, but it's not for everyone.

I didn't read "intimately" in GP, but sure.

Good luck partnering with a member of a family without getting embroiled to one degree or another with kids and the other partner though (but maybe this gets better after the kids are older than mine? Time will tell...).

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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Can you provide those? A search only shows about 4-5% currently involved, but nothing about that value over time.

Unfortunately the data seems to be limited, and quite poor, at this time. I'm guessing this probably stems both from under reporting due to societal stigmas and due to a lack of research. However, I found the following meta-analysis that appears to indicate an increase in interest over the past decade and a half. You may be able to access these articles through you're local library for free, or if you have a subscrip…

Personally, I'd agree that the idea or interest in it is more common or more openly discussed today. I'm just really curious how some of the trends compare through different parts of history (free love, less puritanical countries, or bigomy, etc). I would guess prior data would be even more biased by cultural stigma.

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"kitchen-table" polyamory does not imply that partner(s) are intimately involved with one-another. Just that they can amicably share the same space at times, whether that be a birthday party, a friendly dinner, or board game night. Personally I would hope that any partner(s) feel comfortable speaking to one another and being in the same space if the situation merits it, but it's not for everyone.

I didn't read "intimately" in GP, but sure. Good luck partnering with a member of a family without getting embroiled to one degree or another with kids and the other partner though (but maybe this gets better after the kids are older than mine? Time will tell...).

I think if you raise your kids to be aware of different relationship styles and types, that being in a polyamorous relationship would be no different than dating as a single or divorced parent. You're not going to overshare with your children in either situation and your partner is not going to have a parental relationship with your children.

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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Sure. They need the info for handling inheritance, to handle disputes around divorces and also for rights around medical information and decision making when one is incapacitated. Probably there are other reasons too.

I’ve been through all of those except the divorce, and I don’t think any of them involved a government database. It was all done with documents I provided.

Those were government documents, right? I assume if they were lost or destroyed, the government would need to go to a database to recreate them.

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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I’m convinced this is the next big legal/political marriage change after gay marriage. Though, this one might be a bit harder for developers. I imagine most government databases are setup to assume a 1-to-1 marriage relationship rather than a many-to-many relationship.

It's harder legally: marriages at the moment end when one partner leaves or dies. A polyamorous marriage on the other hand would be more similar to the board of a corporation since it theoretically could be immortal through consistently replacing partners.

Marriage of Theseus.

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That's more or less what got my wife started in it, not lacking attraction to one another, but wondering about others. We loved each other to bits (still do in fact!) but we'd only ever had each other in that way. We were curious. Started as swinging, but eventually we settled more into poly with a dedicated side piece for each of us that we have strong feelings for too. For us at least, it's completely normal to be…

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It's pretty condescending to say "I'm so sorry" to someone who's just gushed about how much they enjoy their lifestyle.

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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That's more or less what got my wife started in it, not lacking attraction to one another, but wondering about others. We loved each other to bits (still do in fact!) but we'd only ever had each other in that way. We were curious. Started as swinging, but eventually we settled more into poly with a dedicated side piece for each of us that we have strong feelings for too. For us at least, it's completely normal to be…

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Oh my god that should've said "my wife and I", sweet Christ what a typo. Aaaaaaand I can't fix it. SHIT.

I appreciate the thought though!!!

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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That's more or less what got my wife started in it, not lacking attraction to one another, but wondering about others. We loved each other to bits (still do in fact!) but we'd only ever had each other in that way. We were curious. Started as swinging, but eventually we settled more into poly with a dedicated side piece for each of us that we have strong feelings for too. For us at least, it's completely normal to be…

I totally get your perspective but what I don’t understand is these two other individuals. Are they actually happy being second best? Do they know/think they’re second best? Possibly you’re going to tell me they’re not second best and the love is equal? I think all of you have a preference and equality is impossible, but I’m willing to hear that position out. I’m sure it’s fun, my feeling is that these situations are…

> Are they actually happy being second best? Do they know/think they’re second best? Possibly you’re going to tell me they’re not second best and the love is equal? I think all of you have a preference and equality is impossible, but I’m willing to hear that position out.

I mean they're "second best" with regard to the law, which is unfortunate but there really isn't any legal mechanisms where we live for multi-partnering, so it's just kind of the reality we've had to accept. But outside of that, we do our best to keep ourselves equal to our extraneous partners. It may seem strange but this is really the best. Sometimes that means plans with my wife can't happen because she already has some, and sometimes it means stuff my wife can't go to, my girlfriend does instead. It usually breaks down to whoever is available first, and we keep the lines of communication open and do our level best to head off any sense of resentment that crops up.

As with most things, communication resolves a lot. It also doesn't hurt that my wife's second man really doesn't have much romantic interest at all outside of her, so he doesn't have someone else to juggle, and mine happens to be married to my best friend, which certainly complicated that relationship for awhile there but we've had it more or less down to a routine for a good while now.

> I’m sure it’s fun, my feeling is that these situations are often fun for some of the participants but aren’t fun or become quite hellish for others. Obviously I’ve no statistics but it seems to end badly more often than not. As do most relationships, admittedly.

There are unique challenges. Since one party is always a limitation on the other, there is sort of a baseline sense of rejection and de-prioritization one has to contend with. It just is what it is, so much of our culture and conditioning is built around this idea of you find ONE person and that one person is just, your entire world, forever and now you're sharing them. However, again the flip side to that is, you have another person too. So it sort of replaces the monogamous sole-relationship with... almost a sense of community belonging that is profound. It's not without it's costs to get it sorted, but IMO it's the best thing I've ever done in my life for my mental health. Not putting all your eggs in one basket has advantages, you know?

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's more or less what got my wife started in it, not lacking attraction to one another, but wondering about others. We loved each other to bits (still do in fact!) but we'd only ever had each other in that way. We were curious. Started as swinging, but eventually we settled more into poly with a dedicated side piece for each of us that we have strong feelings for too. For us at least, it's completely normal to be…

Just curious, what if the novelty wears out even with two partners? I'd imagine it'd wear out twice as slow, but eventually familiarity will take over, right?

I mean, it hasn't yet? We don't all live together so the extra partners do retain a sense of novelty I feel, what with us being perpetually held back from the true "spousal" feel? But even so, with the two of them, I feel no need to like... add another. That's just too much, haha.

Re: How Did Polyamory Become So Popular?

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I thought this issue was settled in the late sixties and seventies. As "hot" as threesomes sound, the result of polyamorous consequences was once considered settled when the early '80s struck. i.e., Drug-resistant STDs and the emergence of HIV. Monogamy can turn into a boring gated garden whereas a threesome is a potential vector threat if not an emotional threat as well.

Prep + condoms eliminates this risk.
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