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My intent was to say, in a positive way, "If you are unwilling to learn how a serial console works, or how OpenSSH public key authentication works, I'll refund your money and send you to Linode."
That was exactly how I interpreted it when I read it originally. I love the minimalist page by the way.
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I'm not trying to dissuade you from using prgmr, but EC2's reserved instance pricing makes it a lot more competitive. You can get the 3.75GB medium instance for $55/mo (1-year commitment including the up-front fee as a monthly cost) which compares nicely against prgmr's $68/mo 4GB instance ($14.67/GB vs $17/GB). In fact, I'm wondering how you came about your "I'm able to run infrastructure comprising ~500GB RAM for l…
I have a couple of the xen instances, but the vast majority of my capacity is on colo'd machines and a managed dedicated box. My total hosting bill is in the $300-$400 range. Admittedly I haven't looked closely at EC2 reserved pricing (I used the on-demand prices to get to the back of the envelope 3% number), but I still don't think it would be close. And this is month-to-month.
Sorry: Over what time?
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5 gigs on a 10G port. $5000 one time setup for the 10G port. $0.65/mbps on the commit, $1.15/mbps on overage. That's my cost, so i guess I'm losing a tiny bit on my time, setup fees and equipment, but right now, I just want someone to split some of the monthlies with me. I really, really want that 10G port, though, as at those overages, I can oversubscribe my own commit, and if I oversubscribe too aggressively or one…
So if I understand that correctly, the reason other providers seem to provide a lot more bandwidth per subscriber dollar (ex. my Linode has 200G transfer/month at $19.95) is most of their customers probably don't push the pipe into an overage so they're basically overselling the bandwidth? p.s. I just noticed your $20 plan provides double the RAM and 4gb more disk than my Linode... i'll do a little more research but…
but in a very real sense? for customers doing non-pornographic and legal things? bandwidth is in a real sense close to free, and most customers don't need much. Look for 'penny a gigabyte' overage charges from more competitive hosts soon, and, well, 'unlimited' these days often closer to the real thing than it used to be.
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I have a couple of the xen instances, but the vast majority of my capacity is on colo'd machines and a managed dedicated box. My total hosting bill is in the $300-$400 range. Admittedly I haven't looked closely at EC2 reserved pricing (I used the on-demand prices to get to the back of the envelope 3% number), but I still don't think it would be close. And this is month-to-month.
> [...] $300-$400 range. Sorry: Over what time?
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As a stupid person, I was offended.
The fact you understand what the page is even about, means that you are not in anyway a stupid person.
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I have a couple of the xen instances, but the vast majority of my capacity is on colo'd machines and a managed dedicated box. My total hosting bill is in the $300-$400 range. Admittedly I haven't looked closely at EC2 reserved pricing (I used the on-demand prices to get to the back of the envelope 3% number), but I still don't think it would be close. And this is month-to-month.
Not really comparing like with like, colo vs cloud
I mean, I agree that they are very different products, but IAAS and a vps are different products, too. (with a VPS, the customer expects me to preserve the data on disk. With IAAS, the customer expects to be able to spin up new nodes on demand.) If anything, co-lo is much more like VPS or dedicated servers, in that you generally use raid and expect the RAID to be fairly reliable.
But if you are running a webapp, just like most webapps that could run on a VPS can run on IAAS and vis-a-vis, most webapps that can run on a dedicated server or IAAS can also run on co-located hardware you run.
The cost difference is, well, dramatic. Of course, the stress difference, if you are notified that you made the front page of hacker news Thursday evening and have to come up with more servers same day on a friday, and your application can't run on IAAS? The stress difference can also be considerable. so I'm not saying colo is always the answer; I'm just saying that if you are looking at hosting options for your webapp, colo deserves a look.
Of course, if you do co-lo, don't forget redundancy. Good hardware you own with RAID is going to be significantly more reliable than a single IAAS instance, all things being equal, but you don't run something on IAAS without redundancy, and if downtime is expensive, you won't run it on hardware without redundancy. For some applications, it's enough to just have spares and carry a pager (of course, that's also a pain in the ass. I better be saving a lot of money to carry a pager) and for other applications? It's okay to just wait until Monday and get the people you bought the computer from to fix it. In those cases, I'd practice spinning up your app on IAAS so you have something, just in case.
Something is confusing - nobody measures bandwidth in GiB, and _almost_ nobody measures disk space in GiB. It's useful that they emphasized the unit, otherwise 99% of their (educated) customers would have assumed 10 (network/disk) Gigabytes was 1.0 * 10^9 bytes. The only use of GiB that I seen commonly is in Memory. Every other use of "Giga" is the SI reference.
However, there is much confusion with disk space in GiB vs GB. Hard drives are sold in GB, but most of the time, within an OS, space is most often reported in GiB like ram, so a 1tb drive is rather less than one TiB. I really do allocate disk space in GiB, not in GB, so I think it's appropriate to market it as such.
"Please note; this means all plans come with $4/month worth of support." I can't help wondering how much support that is.
I take that to be a coy way of saying "not very much at all". If the person responding is making even $20/hr, then $4/mo of support is 12 minutes/month of support. :) That said I've had no complaints with support from them when needed. It just has to clearly be about things on their end; they aren't going to help with sysadmin issues on your box.
Person for person, I think we stack up very well against any other front line support... but there's essentially two of us, and yeah, the wait times quite often render the knowledge moot.
Nick and I fight about this; Nick thinks it's better to not say anything until you can say something definite. I think it's best to say 'I'm working on it, doing X, Y and Z' - but compared to 'real companies' both nick and I are on the side of "it doesn't really count until you fix it" whereas most big companies have SLAs that reset the clock when they respond and get a level 1 person working on it.
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Seems like a non-automated or a semi-automated provisioning on their side; I wonder what else isn't automated.
Billing is not automated. I'm months overdue and I just got a personal email asking if I still wanted my account. It doesn't matter. Prgmr is hands down the best hobby VPS provider (I can't comment for other scenarios).