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> I am talking to a mid 20's conservative childless male from the US who recently managed to join FAANG (congratulations). I'm in my early 40s, coding professionally since I was a teen, so over 20 YOE, lived through multiple downturns. Didn't vote conservative at all last election. I have a child, and have extensive experience in both big companies and small startups. >And I can guarantee you, your FAANG is just wait…
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Fastmail Employees Form a Union
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> You know a company is morally bankrupt if they fight their employees unionizing Any company would oppose their employees unionizing; they have a fiduciary duty to do so
I think people just come at it from an odd point of view. Would trying to minimize AWS bills seem morally wrong to people? No, it wouldn't. But when you try to lower bills of other suppliers, say labor rather than compute, it is suddenly evil.
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Which country were you in at the time? Union laws vary substantially by country so I think this is relevant to understanding different unions and people's experiences with them.
It was Germany. I put the union in quotes because the direct translation is Works Council. I think that some software engineers in Germany are covered by the larger unions like IG Metall and Verdi, but my understanding is mostly for those that work in companies that make physical goods like Mercedes, Siemens, etc.
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If you are forced to be in the union, you're not united...you're coerced. If you choose to be, you are.
I’m forced to pay taxes to the government and can’t opt out. Can still recognize that on balance it’s better in terms of building a larger, stable, more robust society than we’d have otherwise even with all the downsides that come with that coercion.
Don't like the way your city, county or state spends the tax money? You can vote to change it or you can move. You can even do it nationally by moving to another country that you think does it better.
We still get a choice.
On balance, having a choice is always better than the alternative.
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> You know who caused raised the raised interest rates? Oh yeah. That would be the organization that is in charge of deciding what the rates are. Which would be the federal reserve. They quite literally decide what the rate is. > "macroeconomic factors" Do you not know how interest rates and borrowing costs work? It's pretty standard econ 101 stuff, about how interest rates effect the economy and effect hiring and fi…
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There were a whole lot of factors involved in the subprime crisis, partially free market and partially government. At it's core, the banks were taking on risky loans. Banks package and sell loans as investment vehicles and in order to get these loans off of their books they mixed the risky loans in with the safer ones to sell them. As they sold and passed ratings approval from the institutions that were supposed to identify these risks for investors, other banks did the same in order to compete effectively because the free market incentivizes competition.
When businesses discover a new way to make money, others will adopt and impersonate that technique. That was the free market hand in the housing crisis because these investment vehicles were sold everywhere.
But the root cause was the risky loans in the first place. All banks had to do to remain stable was continue loaning money after verifying a high level of confidence that the borrowers could pay it back. But their hand was forced.
Similarly, if you look at the cost of higher education today it's entirely due to student loans. Supply of admissions at colleges remained relatively the same but demand was sky high. Normally increasing prices would slow demand, but the unlimited supply of student loan dollars allowed it to continually increase in price year over year. As prices go up, income goes up, compensation and construction increases and other institutions have to do exactly the same things to compete. So they do.
But all of that is enabled through the firehose of federal money tampering with the free market.
I don't know what you have been reading to believe all that, but this is mathematical in its consistency. Yes, regulations are sometimes needed but 9/10 times when there is a financial issue aligned around skyrocketing costs it is due to government interference. Whether housing, healthcare, education or otherwise it's always the same.
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$100 euros a year does not get you 50% of your pre-tax salary for a year. That 100 might be what you paid, but that is not anywhere close to what that costs. Do not confuse the cost of something with the price you pay. At 100 per year they should just make it free. I'm not sure what the real cost of unemployment is per year (there are people who's job it is to figure this out - they have more data than me), but it is…
Not totally sure what argument you're making here. Say you're a professional making $100k per year, with a 1% chance per year of losing your job. A 50% unemployment insurance policy like I described in a private market should cost you a little over $500/yr. That still seems like a good deal to me, and probably to most people.
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Unions also mistreat their members at times. That isn't to say unions are bad, but they are not a perfect answer and you need to watch the union.
No one said unions are perfect or work without participation.
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Also of note is that the US doesn't really have sectoral bargaining like, say, France does. This would prevent scenarios where nonunionized companices in a sector can start up and outperform established unionized ones just by hiring desperate people and paying them below the fair rate.
The people who get hurt the most in that case would be the employees who aren't hired and the customers who are not served by the business that therefore does not start.
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I’m forced to pay taxes to the government and can’t opt out. Can still recognize that on balance it’s better in terms of building a larger, stable, more robust society than we’d have otherwise even with all the downsides that come with that coercion.
And yet, if you disagree you can still opt out of paying those taxes...by moving. Don't like the way your city, county or state spends the tax money? You can vote to change it or you can move. You can even do it nationally by moving to another country that you think does it better. We still get a choice. On balance, having a choice is always better than the alternative.