Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

Post by lolinder » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 6:22 PM UTC

alacode wrote: post #306

ollien wrote: post #264

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The six-month grace period notice pretty clearly states his data would be read-only, while the seven-day notice seems to be the first time destruction is even mentioned. I think we can both agree that there's a world of difference between data being read-only and being destroyed. I think it's completely reasonable to say he has 7 days to download it.

I was curious what the context of "grace period" is for Google Drive and found this: https://support.google.com/drive/thread/13321050/what-will-h... "If I cancel my additional storage, will all the files/documents that took up the additional space, be deleted? Or will I still have access to them?" "You will still have access to all your files but, if you have used all storage you won't be able to add or create NEW fi…

Post by disqard » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 6:24 PM UTC

gwervc wrote: post #33

theandrewbailey wrote: post #3

> And, yes, some people have asked why Tim doesn’t have other backups around, but (again) the FBI took all of his shit. I was about to say 'you should have other backups', but the FBI is a very powerful persistent threat, and might be the more important problem.

Startup idea: SaaS portal to trigger FBI raid on RAID disks, acting as a free replicated permanent archival storage. Retrieving the data is out of scope of the MVP.

Post by pwg » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 6:27 PM UTC

racl101 wrote: post #346

I don't wanna victim blame, but I don't understand how people could put their entire body of work on a cloud service and not make the effort to get several external drives to have some redundancy. All my work is probably like 50GB, but I have it backed up on an external drive AND the cloud. It's like self preservation instinct is missing. 3rd party services are fallible, even when they don't make business decisions t…

Post by x0x0 » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 6:29 PM UTC

RajT88 wrote: post #465

x0x0 wrote: post #420

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Because I was curious what drives cost today -- 20 TB drives on newegg seems to be available for $310 to $360. If you use erasure coding w/ 30% overhead that's 18 +3 drives or $7.5k in drives alone, pre chassis. Having a DR replica living somewhere outside your house probably gets this well over $12k, even if that replica is glacier or similar.

So I found 20tb drives as low as 270 (which is what I used for my own pricing out of a hypothetical build), but if you feel lucky you can get large capacity refurb drives for a lot less than brand new (I did this recently for scratch space on my NAS). A refurb 20tb can be had as low as 200, which gets you down to 4200. But yes - I realized my mistake in tossing off that comment offhand.

Post by hughesjj » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 6:33 PM UTC

resoluteteeth wrote: post #164

boringg wrote: post #117

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Crisis (!?) is a bit dramatic. Google response isn't correct but everyone here has there hands a bit dirty. Storing 237 Tb on an unlimited server - the individual clearly knew they were taking advantage of a system and probably should have been ready for some kind of remedy.

> Google response isn't correct but everyone here has there hands a bit dirty. Storing 237 Tb on an unlimited server - the individual clearly knew they were taking advantage of a system and probably should have been ready for some kind of remedy. Google clearly made a mistake in offering an "unlimited plan" so it makes perfect sense that they're going to discontinue it, and offer 60 days before the data becomes read…