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Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by simne » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 3:31 AM UTC

dontlaugh wrote: post #688

simne wrote: post #642

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Could you give adequate sources, how you decide that 2014 was coup?

Even Jacobin has a decent article https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia... One of its most notable events was the burning of a trade union building by self-proclaimed neo-Nazis. When fascists kill trade unionists and then end up part of the army, it tends to be a coup.

This is Russian propaganda.

In reality, crime gangs supported by Russians, first tried to use firearms on maidan, and also had large supply of flammable fluid.

But when feel resistance, these gangs tried to hide in trade union building with those flammable fluid barrels, and just accidentally burned themselves, and maidan activists tried to rescue ALL people when burning happen.

Only propagandist sources could consider trade unions storing flammable fluid barrels in building full of people, when unrest happen.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by scotty79 » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:07 AM UTC

toyg wrote: post #674

scotty79 wrote: post #665

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In another country? Probably there's none. In their own country, on territories claimed by some minority as their own? I bet there's a few at least. Something in Azerbaijan for sure.

It's not "their country", nobody (and I mean nobody) recognizes Gaza and West Bank as part of Israel. You could get away with "in their colonies", but then your argument would fall apart again.

How is it recognized then?

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by t0mas88 » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 7:33 PM UTC

Tangurena2 wrote: post #251

t0mas88 wrote: post #166

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This happens all the time. There is a documentary for example on the HMS Elizabeth carrier from the UK and how they deliberately navigated through Crimea waters (together with the Dutch navy) to make a point that they're allowed to do so because that water is Ukrainian and not Russian. In the same documentary you also see Chinese ships follow around the British group, and Russian jets overflying it. All in internatio…

The Montreux Convention[0] prohibits large warships from transiting the Bosporous Strait. That carrier displaces 65,000 tons, the upper limit of the treaty only permits warships of 15,000 tons or less. The UK is one of the signatories to that treaty. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_... 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft...

Ah yes, it were two ships part of the Queen Elizabeth strike group, but not the carrier itself. The command was given by the admiral that was on board the Elizabeth.

Now that you write that it makes sense why they would send only two ships and not move the group around there.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by dataworm » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 1:01 PM UTC

dontlaugh wrote: post #689

dataworm wrote: post #687

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A non-downvoted and non-flagged comment that directly parrots russian propaganda with no sources whatsoever. How wonderful!

As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever? Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing. There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian.

> As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever?

As if that makes your comment any more true. These comments are based on facts. Just because they support NATO doesn't mean that they are false. Your comment, unlike imaginary 'NATO propaganda', is completely divorced from reality and full of lies.

> Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing.

Why did you assume that I'm American? I'm Ukrainian and know the history of my country better that some pro-russian stranger on the internet. And the 'obsession' is completely justified when russia keeps commiting war crimes, destroying cities and massacring civillians.

> There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian.

Disagreeing with US' actions is one thing, supporting russia is another. Your comment is clearly the latter.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by grumple » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:03 PM UTC

immibis wrote: post #454

grumple wrote: post #179

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Well that appears to demonstrate that Hamas works and prevents even greater harm than the harm carried out by Hamas. Probably not a message Israel wants to send.

That is the exact opposite of the message that was sent.