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Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by stavros »

tzs wrote: post #68
stavros wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't just fuck users, they fuck their employees as well. How many writers' strikes have there been now? How much of an open secret was Weinstein raping and abusing actresses? I hope the whole system dies, and maybe something better will take its place. I'm sure I won't miss Guardians of the Galaxy XXIV.

> I'm sure I won't miss Guardians of the Galaxy XXIV. Is this because you thought GotG 1-3 were bad and they are just going to keep making more bad stuff, or because you thought GotG 1-3 were good but have pretty much wrapped up the story of those characters so it is now time to stop, or something else?

Neither, Hollywood has been playing it so safe that they don't dare produce anything original any more, and it has become much more boring as a whole lately.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by Habgdnv »

Libcat99 wrote: post #6
mika69 wrote: post #2

Piracy at it again.

If the vendors pirate your money, it's only fair you pirate their content.

Isn't it time for a big lawsuit against some large ISPs (like Verizon) for allowing Sony to scam people like that? If there are 2 people scammed, Sony can get away with a warning, but if there is 3th - they should disconnect all Sony related servers from the internet. That should be fair.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by stavros »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #105
stavros wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steam is a godsend for Linux. I no longer have to even check where a game plays, I know that a Steam game will play on Linux. Nowadays I buy games mostly as thanks to Valve's Linux efforts, as I don't really tend to game much.

It's still not every game, checking protondb before buying is good advice.

That's true, that's oversimplification on my part. I tend to like older, non-AAA games, and I haven't had a single one of those fail so far.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

whatevaa wrote: post #101
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any sources for this?

I did a work on DRM during my master degree. It's somewhat true, it's called Broadcast Encryption. They can stop your players ability to read new disks. They can't stop existing ones though, unless the disk requires online component or something. DRM stands for Digital Rights Management, but I call it Digital Restrictions Management cause that's what it is from users point of view.

Interesting, thanks for sharing

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by qingcharles »

radicality wrote: post #81

I’ve noticed something strange on my iTunes account recently - missing tv shows I absolutely remember buying at one point, but nowhere to be seen now. One I remember is “Adventure Time”. Just now searched my email and found receipts from iTunes Store for “Adventure Time Vol 1” dated 22 Nov 2013. I see receipts for the other seasons of the show too, they were not rentals as far as I’m aware. Then sometime in last few…

Contact their support? I'd love to know what they say.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by paulryanrogers »

MegaDeKay wrote: post #83
McDyver wrote: post #5

> you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed Content you purchased. Their wording. Not content you rented, not license you paid for. They are effectively stealing the content you purchased.

From Louis Rossmann on YouTube: "If paying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing." (shamelessly copied from the top comment on /r/piracy on this very subject)

I'd add that if you paid a price similar to buying a physical copy then it's a stronger case. And most of these digital 'buy' prices have literally no discount compared to a Blu-ray, which is shameless.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by smegsicle »

bozhark wrote: post #106
Red_Leaves_Flyy wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wake me up when Sony executives serve hard time for federal fraud charges. I’m afraid there is no justice for citizens victimized by the ownership class.

We could all band together and buy Sony out of it’s self

dibs on ceo

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by bluefirebrand »

wilg wrote: post #109
Daneel_ wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course you can copy it. You just can’t sell that copy to someone else while keeping your own copy too. That’s copyright infringement. I’m not sure what you’re on about with “license” in this context. You own the VHS. Do with it what you like.

There are tons of things you can't do with it. You can't exhibit it publicly. You don't own the movie on the tape! You just own a tape. I am refuting the original poster's claim that "With DRM you never purchase _content_. You only purchase a _license_ to access it." This is true, but is meant to imply there is an alternative. There isn't, a you only have a license to the content in all cases, including DRM-free phys…

Ok, your original post was ambiguous then because you didn't talk about content at all, you talked about "in what sense do you own [A VHS]", so people explained how owning a VHS is different from licensing digital media.

Mostly that your license to the content of a VHS cannot be revoked arbitrarily after you purchase the VHS itself.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by bluefirebrand »

heikkilevanto wrote: post #63

If I buy a book, I own that book. I can burn it, I can lend or give it to a friend, I can read it as many times as I like, and nobody can legally come and take it away from me.

Also no one can come and say "you only bought the book not the words inside it" and use whiteout to cover up the words.

Which is basically what revoking a license to a digital only piece of content is.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by tacticalturtle »

pravus wrote: post #69
nickff wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve heard many “pirates” say similar things, and when their condition is met, they find a new demand. Why would an IP rights-holder believe you? Why not just buy physical media where available, and abstain where an acceptable legal option is not provided?

> Why would an IP rights-holder believe you? Because in addition to all the filthy pirated booty I stole, I would also show them this: * My 350+ physical CD collection * My 200+ physical DVD/Blu-Ray * My entire merch collection for Nine Inch Nails (>$1000) * My entire merch collection for Rings of Saturn (>$1000) * My merch collection from many, many, many other bands * Pages of receipts from Bandcamp and other e-med…

Fortunately at least “Happy Birthday” is in the public domain as of 2016.
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