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Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by radicality »

I’ve noticed something strange on my iTunes account recently - missing tv shows I absolutely remember buying at one point, but nowhere to be seen now.

One I remember is “Adventure Time”. Just now searched my email and found receipts from iTunes Store for “Adventure Time Vol 1” dated 22 Nov 2013. I see receipts for the other seasons of the show too, they were not rentals as far as I’m aware. Then sometime in last few years the content disappeared from my account and devices. In fact I just opened up iTunes Store now, found the Adventure Time series still available on iTunes, but it’s asking to pay and saying I don’t have. This is exactly same AppleID I used 10 years ago to buy this content ugh.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by sergiotapia »

Crazy how we have beautiful technology that makes content ownership trivial, cheap and supremely easy to access -- but greedy companies take a dookie on all that potential. :(

I'm at 560 movies with AV1. I started my local collection again after a long time. My family uses my Jellyfin.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by MegaDeKay »

McDyver wrote: post #5

> you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed Content you purchased. Their wording. Not content you rented, not license you paid for. They are effectively stealing the content you purchased.

From Louis Rossmann on YouTube: "If paying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing."

(shamelessly copied from the top comment on /r/piracy on this very subject)

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by DarkmSparks »

TheNorthman wrote: post #35
DarkmSparks wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure they are going to have to refund everyone. That has happened with these kind of B2B disagreements in the past, google stadia was the last one I think. https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-get-your-google-stadia-re... Although there is probably plenty of others.

Read your own article. The byline reads: > Google is taking the unprecedented step of paying back users for all the games they bought on its cloud gaming platform. Google _voluntarily_ refunded their customers. It's unheard of and was, frankly, extremely unexpected. Good for Google and good for Stadia customers.

In the same article it points out microsoft also refunded their ebooks when they deleted content people bought.

Assuming these were sold as a perpetual licence (and by the wording Sony used it looks like they were), by removing the content they are in breach of contract, that gets expensive and messy quickly, quicker easier and cheaper just to refund them.

There is obviously some kind of legal disagreement happening between Sony and Discovery, I doubt this is the end of it.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by orwin »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #61
Nextgrid wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're at least a decade late if you think "hacking" (in the sense of building things) is going to get you out of this situation. The problem with these platforms is network effects and lack of interoperability and not in the technical effort required to build an alternative. This is in fact where regulation can help (and like the EU's DMA already attempts to) get us back to a state where you can actually "hack" your…

> You're at least a decade late if you think "hacking" (in the sense of building things) is going to get you out of this situation. The problem with these platforms is network effects and lack of interoperability and not in the technical effort required to build an alternative. In the 90s, the same "arguments" held for Microsoft's applications. The hackers decided to build GNU/Linux and other open source operating sy…

And Microsoft got hammered down by anti-monopolistic regulations, which allowed for an open web and thus the Linux desktop, exactly the kind of regulations GP's asking for (DMA).

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by lokar »

TheNorthman wrote: post #35
DarkmSparks wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure they are going to have to refund everyone. That has happened with these kind of B2B disagreements in the past, google stadia was the last one I think. https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-get-your-google-stadia-re... Although there is probably plenty of others.

Read your own article. The byline reads: > Google is taking the unprecedented step of paying back users for all the games they bought on its cloud gaming platform. Google _voluntarily_ refunded their customers. It's unheard of and was, frankly, extremely unexpected. Good for Google and good for Stadia customers.

But it was not really unprecedented. They gave full refunds when they shut down Google video.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by bakugo »

TheNorthman wrote: post #35
DarkmSparks wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure they are going to have to refund everyone. That has happened with these kind of B2B disagreements in the past, google stadia was the last one I think. https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-get-your-google-stadia-re... Although there is probably plenty of others.

Read your own article. The byline reads: > Google is taking the unprecedented step of paying back users for all the games they bought on its cloud gaming platform. Google _voluntarily_ refunded their customers. It's unheard of and was, frankly, extremely unexpected. Good for Google and good for Stadia customers.

I really don't like the idea that refunds make theft acceptable (and don't tell me this is not theft, because it is)

If someone broke into my house, stole something worth $100 and left behind $100 in cash, that wouldn't make it not theft, so why should this be different? If I buy a product, I should have full control over it for the purposes of personal use, nobody should have the right to take it from me without my consent, that's stealing and a refund doesn't justify it. If a corporation can do this and get away with it, the law has failed.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by akomtu »

BSDobelix wrote: post #57
zarzavat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it comes to piracy the nose of the law isn't very long. Get a good VPN and don't worry about it. No idea why people want to pay money to be scammed by these media companies who see you as a number in a spreadsheet and nothing more.

>Get a good VPN and don't worry about it. The point is that one side can "legally" do that the other can not (in most countries). It's really not about the technical side of it, but the legal one.

The word "legal" simply means "the wish of those in power, written down on paper." There are few exceptions, but certainly not in the copyright law.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Post by onetokeoverthe »

BSDobelix wrote: post #57
zarzavat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it comes to piracy the nose of the law isn't very long. Get a good VPN and don't worry about it. No idea why people want to pay money to be scammed by these media companies who see you as a number in a spreadsheet and nothing more.

>Get a good VPN and don't worry about it. The point is that one side can "legally" do that the other can not (in most countries). It's really not about the technical side of it, but the legal one.

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