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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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It still looks to me as if the cybertruck originally was Teslas secret project for the military but then got rebranded as some kind of Madmax SUV. Ukraine could probably make good use of them.

In reality it'd fall apart on any attempt at either the Black Diamond Drilling Kalgoorlie Desert Race or the Finke Desert Race (classic Australian Mad Max racing events).

The courses are long, rough as guts, and the woops destroy vehicles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOd4iq5d4A

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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post #809

It still looks to me as if the cybertruck originally was Teslas secret project for the military but then got rebranded as some kind of Madmax SUV. Ukraine could probably make good use of them.

> Ukraine could probably make good use of them.

For what? It can't be used anywhere near the battlefields since there would be no infrastructure to recharge and it is far easier to haul fuel to those places than to haul replacement batteries. They'd be almost worthless, use it until its batteries die and then just abandon it.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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It's bizarre that in the middle of a oil market crisis it wasn't expected that the consumer market wouldn't have moved to higher MPG vehicles on it's own anyways. To me, this is one of the hallmarks of a highly monopolized market where consumers don't have any actual choices, and where competition for consumer approval is almost entirely absent. The correct answer would have been to increase the number of companies m…

>Now we have a market that's almost entirely bound to congressional whim Agree 100% >mostly disconnected from consumer demand Disagree. Sedans are still around (Camry, Corolla, Civic, Accord), but consumers are voting with their wallets for crossovers. Ford killed the Focus and Fusion because they simply couldn't be sold for a profit since most people didn't get the high end models, and to be honest, I'm surprised Ch…

The problem is that you get unfair competition if one type of car is held to different standards than another type. Pickups and SUVs should be held to the same standards of regular cars. And maybe also require a stricter driving license, because from everything I hear, they're a lot more dangerous.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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oh common, that is clearly another social media vs Twitter fight. It's not Tesla place the range. It's EPA range. Just read the article: >Tesla vehicles failed to accurately account for external factors impacting battery performance and vehicle range, leading to a gross overestimate of the vehicle's range. So, Karens want tesla to account for a/c temperature preferences, rain, wind, snow on the road, and other factor…

> that is clearly another social media vs Twitter fight. What? > So, Karens want tesla to account for... Tesla customers. People who paid $50,000+ for the privilege of owning a Tesla. Being dissatisfied with the performance of the car makes them "Karens"? Gee, I hope you guys remembered to formally excommunicate them from the Church of Musk. Edit: Ah, I think I see the problem. Have you considered that the range is r…

Whooosh. The point goes completely over your head. As it does for many who want to hate Musk at all costs.

EPA range is standardised. Any OTHER car other than tesla also loses range if you use the AC or drive fast.

This isn't some grand lie by Musk to sell cars, as you want to believe. The range is measured in a standardised way.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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An obvious, easy solution would be to allow car makers to classify a vehicle as either a "car" or a "truck" (once classified, it cannot be reclassified without the car maker being subject to the worst of both worlds). Cars can be driven with a car driving license. Trucks can be driven with a truck driving license, or CDL, or have to be registered by a company, or _whatever licensing requirement makes it perfectly fea…

Except that in all of America that isn't a city (most of it), a truck is a super useful tool and requiring a CDL would basically be a bad joke.

And yet trucks are huge without a material increase in bed space. If the auto makers can skirt around the law to make everything a truck, surely In this hypothetical, they would make smaller trucks and make them "cars"

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…

48V power electronics are quite commonplace in industrial applications.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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post #485

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Thanks for explaining your thoughts.

Motorsports enthusiasts look at Nürburgring lap times. The Porsche 911 is at the highest level of performance on any track where you actually have to use the brakes and steering wheel. If the Cybertruck can do a good lap on the Nürburgring then its "FAST", but it probably isn't, due to weight. The 911 is not built for drag racing, it's built for a track with corners where you have to use the brakes and steering wheel…

Any Cybertruck that could make it to the Nürburgring on its own would lose to pretty much any car. It can't ever go faster than 60mph if street legal in Europe.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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It's a brutally agressive looking machine - I assume intentionally so. That flat front pretty much guarantees padestrian/cyclist/motorcyclist fatailities in a collision. And over on Ars Technica they say "Musk implied that in a crash with another vehicle, the Cybertruck [...] will destroy the other vehicle." [1] - and presumably therefore kills its occupants too.

Opinion: this is the purest physical realisation of the Musk/Tesla world-view. A kind of Conway's law for cars. Deeply depressing, and the tech merely distracts from this a little. Why do we need this thing, again?

[1] https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/11/the-tesla-cybertruck-fi...

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