Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029
That's a cool video, but very strange decision to have audio of Elon at some press conference or something instead of the actual race. You're expecting engines and tire screeches and instead it's like 5 or 10 mildly excited people that aren't there.
EVs motors don’t wake you up when your car enthusiast neighbor gets home late at night if they’re driving a EV sports car.
It is extremely misleading to include gas savings as a reduction in purchase price. If anything that should be used as a comparison of overall operating costs and cost more than the purchase price but not as much more as the gas competitor.
Yeah look at planes. I'd rather have hydraulics and mechanical controls still in a car. Which is why I drive a primitive POS (Dacia Duster).
Tell me you have zero flight time or aircraft engineering experience without telling me you have zero flight time or aircraft engineering experience. This is no different from Trump claiming he wanted "damn steam" for aircraft carrier catapults despite electromagnetic ones having clear advantages. This isn't 1969 anymore.
The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…
> The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard, and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. I'd like to nitpick "doing actual pickup truck work". The Lightning gets terrible mileage, to the tune of roughly 100 miles on a charge, while hauling which ICE trucks do not…
You can't compare an EV pick up and an ICE truck like that, unless you specify what you call 'doing actual pickup truck work'. Plenty of companies don't put more than 100 miles on a truck every day and that means that their workload is a good match for an F150 Lightning even if it is hauling. Landscapers, city fleets and so on tend to move to a spot, stay there all day and then drive back and it's probably possible to charge them on either end of that trip. And they're never going to be further away than 100 miles from their home base.
> At 7000 lbs and a high ground clearance, there is no amount of power that can make this car feel nimble. Why do you believe that? (I assume you have not test driven it.) From the videos it seems to feel very nimble.
I have admittedly not test driven it, but there's certain fundamental physical realities that are pretty hard to overcome. Ride height and vehicle weight universally negatively impact handling on the road because they increase your momentum, center of gravity, suspension travel, etc. Weight in particular is hard to counteract because going around a corner relies on being able to redirect that mass using only the fric…
The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…
> available today None of the CTs are available today, they're all at some unspecified point in 2024. The cheapest CT is ostensibly available in 2025, but estimates from this company that far out are hilariously worthless. Prospective customers of the cheapest CT might remember the cheapest Model 3, which the CEO promised to deliver in July, 2017, but actually began delivery in February, 2019. > same 250 mile range b…
Plus how is it going to feel to own this when battery tech improves and the range extender feels ever more obsolete?
It’s a slower version of how computers felt back in the 90s to early 2000s. Ie as soon as bought it was quickly obsolete.
Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…
I am curious what cybertruck will charge like at existing superchargers that max out at 400V. GM's clever solution is to present the battery pack as 2 400V packs. It does pose some very tricky pack balancing requirements though. Other 800V cars charge quite poorly on 400V stations, usually with a hard cap at much lower than the potential max charge due to inverter limits.
E-GMP (EV6, Ioniq5) actually charges quite fast on 400V as they run it through the motor/inverter which already pumps out more than 100kW
CAFE standards have been around since 1975. Yes, they helped incentivize manufacturers to aggressively market trucks and SUVs, but they don't explain the recent increase in the size of those trucks. That part's new.
Despite some misleading pictures shared on social media, if you do an apples-to-apples comparison (e.g., a 1972 F-150 and a 2023 model with the same bed size), they are about the same length. The differences are vastly better driver safety and fuel economy. Even the differences in height are often overplayed by making bad-faith comparisons: https://i0.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads... The main diff…
What? The average truck on the road is absolutely substantially larger today than in the past.
> same 250 mile range but AWD standard AWD is much less important on a truck than most people think. I spent my youth driving my family’s farm trucks around in the mud and driving large cattle trailers to auctions. No one in my family could afford a 4WD, but there was maybe one or two times ever that I felt like I needed it. Mostly it’s just huge cost and a large amount of weight and fuel economy lost for rural peopl…
4x4 in the summer? Yeah, not so much. 4x4 in areas with real winters with ice and hills and mountains? Yes indeed that is quite an improvement.
I won't deny it can be useful, but it's still not needed. I grew up in Wisconsin (which certainly qualifies as real winters) and you can get by just fine in the winter without 4x4. The biggest problem by far in the winter isn't traction, it's being able to stop when you need to stop. AWD doesn't help with that at all.
> Qualifying businesses can claim a deduction of up to $28,900 when purchasing a new Tesla vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of at least 6,000 pounds. To qualify for the tax deduction, vehicles must be operated for legitimate business use >50% the time.