Any resources people could share about the engineering of the cybertruck? I don’t know too much about cars in general but I want to know if there is anything interesting in this one.
Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs
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#422EST. $96,390* CYBERBEAST DELIVERY IN 2024 320 MI. RANGE (EST.) 2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH† 130 MPH TOP SPEED 845 HORSEPOWER 10,296 LB-FT TORQUE 11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY
Bed does not fit a full sheet of plywood, so a deal-breaker for practical truck buyers. You’d assume 96” would be a default parameter in any generative model focused on “optimum truck.” Am I missing something? Enlighten me.
That’s why I rent the Home Depot truck with the 10’ bed for $25. Manufacturers found people want a second row instead of a longer bed at some point, must have been some convincing A/B testing in the 90s.
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#423Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…
A quote I've seen attributed to Carl Sagan comes to mind, "But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
The Cybertruck is definitely different and attention grabbing. But there's good and bad versions of that and I really feel like this is the latter. Previous Tesla vehicles were also different and bucked certain traditional vehicle design trends but did so in a way that made them look like they were moving beyond current cars and legitimately belonged in the future.
The Cybertruck also looks like the future, but as envisioned by a SyFy movie of the week that stars Lorenzo Lamas and that ran out of money and built their future vehicle out of spray painted plywood sheets. There's quirky bad, it grows on you bad, and then just bad bad. I also find it reminiscent of the Pontiac Aztek and some quick Googling tells me I'm not the only one. This is perhaps not the comparison you want to evoke. I've never seen an in-developed product gets such a huge amount of derision of its visual design and then come out essentially unchanged. Maybe Elon and Tesla have vision far beyond everyone else on this point, but it's difficult to imagine the appeal of this outside of an extremely niche market...perhaps of people who were sad their Pontiac Aztek died and that it didn't cost them more money.
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#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's all ego. They need the large trucks to impress their coworkers who also have the large trucks.
Well this is sticking your head in the sand about it. People own trucks because while trucks might not be particularly good at some things, they're also not particularly bad at them. If you need to move large or heavy items occasionally, it's really handy having a truck...and the thing is, it won't be bad at doing car things either. To the specific example here, you also have the obvious missing part: people are havi…
Most Pickup Truck Owners Don’t Actually Do Any Truck Stuff.
> Only 7.0% of truck buyers frequently use their trucks to tow. About 2% of people use their trucks to tow occasionally, while 63% of owners rarely or never tow.
> But at least 28% of owners frequently use their trucks for personal hauling, while 47% of owners occasionally haul. Nearly 32% of owners rarely or never haul personal items.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/most-pickup-truck-owners-dont-a...
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#425The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…
From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations. It seems like all the electric trucks want to prove they are bigger and tougher than the ICE trucks, but it seems like the perfect platform for small trucks, as the the efficiency standards would become a moot point. I’m looking for trucks like the old Ford Ranger from the late 9…
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#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's all ego. They need the large trucks to impress their coworkers who also have the large trucks.
Well this is sticking your head in the sand about it. People own trucks because while trucks might not be particularly good at some things, they're also not particularly bad at them. If you need to move large or heavy items occasionally, it's really handy having a truck...and the thing is, it won't be bad at doing car things either. To the specific example here, you also have the obvious missing part: people are havi…
Spot on. People are really prejudice about cars and trucks. Ask me what I think about VW drivers.
The Porsche getting ripped by the CT is also pretty cool IMO.
Also the onboard 220V is like a PTO on a tractor, expect many cool things from this apparent swiss army knife of a truck.
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#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are free to do whatever you like. And others are free to do what they like. Which for most people includes making judgements about who you are based on the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the style of haircut etc. And buying a Cybertruck does imply that you either (a) agree with or (b) are ambivalent about Musk's behaviour.
> Which for most people includes making judgements about who you are based on the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the style of haircut etc. But, it's important to understand that the people with some hairstyle aren't the assholes. That would be entirely on the people saying they're assholes for their choice of hair shaft placement. > And buying a Cybertruck does imply that you either (a) agree with or (b) are am…
> I don't believe most Tesla owners are aware of this. Most that I know see an obvious choice in a product with no real competition.
Cybertruck isn't even released yet, all the dates here are 2024.
Meanwhile, Ford 150 Lightning and Rivian actually exist (and have existed for literally years). You can't even properly call the Cybertruck a competitor until its truly available.
And the low-price model has a "might be released in 2025, we don't have the specs either" right there front and center. That's not competition, that's vaporware.
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#428Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…
I'm hoping the 800V architecture at least leads to Tesla supercharger stations my Ioniq 5 can actually use after NACS takes over. The current 400V architecture would charge even slower than the raw math would imply, because it requires the car to handle the voltage difference internally. Going through that path bottlenecks the charge rate at something Chevy-Boltish like 50kW that's simply not very viable for road tri…
I would guess that at least all the version 4 charges will support 800V in the near future. Maybe even the version 3 ones can be upgraded.
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#429Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029
I am a car enthusiast (although not one who could afford either a 911 nor a Cybertruck) but respectfully, who cares about quarter mile times? Most car people I know want a car with some poke, but care much more about how it handles twisties (and how much fun it is doing so). And I'd bet my bottom dollar the 911 would beat the refrigerator-looking truck all day long.
I drive the slowest Tesla there is, but I find its acceleration from 0 to 50km/h very beneficial.
It feels much more safe when merging, overtaking, etc, compared to my previous (rather weak and old) car. And I do my best to not drive as a jackass.
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#430The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…
Do you mean something like Aptera? https://aptera.us/
This really excites me. I had 2 Cybertruck reservations, I cancelled them and ordered an Aptera. I think this is what we really need: smaller car with efficiency in mind.