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The tax credit is guaranteed as long as you made less than 300k this year or last year (150k if not married), and it is now given directly at time of purchase instead of later when you file. Seems OK to include. The gas savings is much more speculative.
Do people making less than 150k buy 100k cars? I don't have a good sense for how Americans budget their vehicle purchases.
Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs
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#332I would like to know the range when towing 11,000 lbs. In the full size market, I can only think of the Nissan Titan as having less than 12,000 lb tow rating. A base Ford F150 has a 14,000 rating. When you move up to diesels, you can easily tow 20,000+ lbs and even at 10,000 lbs you take very little hit on range if your load is somewhat aerodynamic. Pulling a full-size Airstream you can still get 20+mpg even in a sma…
The 11,000 may be limited by the suspension system. So in terms of comparisons I don't think you're wrong, but it might be better to compare it to the F-150 Lightning for more of an apples to apples comparison. The F-150 Lightning Platinum vs Cybetruck AWD is probably the most fair comparison in terms of specs, but the CT is ~$20,000 cheaper If we compare the F-150 Lightning Lariat with XR Battery to the Cybertruck A…
Trim-to-trim equivalency hard to get since Tesla interiors are so spartan and each company is putting their money in difference places, but it's probably Lariat. Lariat big battery comes to about 76K compared to the true purchase price of 100K for cyberbeast.
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#333If Silicon Valley was still airing, Russ Hanneman would have one of these.
Impossible. He has 3 nannies suing him, one of them for no reason.
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations. It seems like all the electric trucks want to prove they are bigger and tougher than the ICE trucks, but it seems like the perfect platform for small trucks, as the the efficiency standards would become a moot point. I’m looking for trucks like the old Ford Ranger from the late 9…
If it weighs over 6000 pounds and you have a small business, you can completely write off 100% of the purchase in one year.
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#335Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…
The current 400V architecture would charge even slower than the raw math would imply, because it requires the car to handle the voltage difference internally. Going through that path bottlenecks the charge rate at something Chevy-Boltish like 50kW that's simply not very viable for road trips.
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#336The whole Cybertruck site is really well designed - animations are subtle and way less choppy/annoying (on my M2 Mac) than Apple's website.
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think they do it for the intentional Streisand effect. In other words it generates a new thread on social media once in a while, with people talking about whether or not there are cost of ownership savings, with the truth generally coming down in Tesla's favor. And still regardless of how you interpret the cost equation, the controversy brings attention. And more in line with Occam's razor it just spurs awareness i…
“The competition does shady things too” isn’t really an argument for this not being a simple case of posting misleading prices…
Misquoting is not an argument.
It’s not shady because it’s clearly labeled.
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#338The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…
> same 250 mile range but AWD standard AWD is much less important on a truck than most people think. I spent my youth driving my family’s farm trucks around in the mud and driving large cattle trailers to auctions. No one in my family could afford a 4WD, but there was maybe one or two times ever that I felt like I needed it. Mostly it’s just huge cost and a large amount of weight and fuel economy lost for rural peopl…
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Zero means zero. Who decided they could change the definition of zero?
Think of it like a microbenchmark. Acceleration for the first second or so is dominated by tire/road traction. Acceleration at non-trivial speed is governed by drive train power. Which measurement you take depends on what subsystem you want to measure. Drag nuts like tuning engines (which can be done in their shops with a high school education) and not choosing tire compositions (which requires a tire factory, and li…
Car enthusiasts benchmark both 0-to-60 and 5-to-60 because that rollout can change the behavior of various cars.
What we have here is Tesla taking the 5-to-60 time and pretending its a 0-to-60 time. Rollout is fine and all, just ya know, be honest about it. Call it a 5-to-60 time.
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#340If Silicon Valley was still airing, Russ Hanneman would have one of these.
Great thing of the Cybertruck's stainless steel is that you cannot scratch the paint with the rivets of your expensive jeans. I likes the Russ Hanneman character so much that during COVID lockdowns, when I was a bit down, I paid Chris Diamantopoulos (the actor) on Cameo to do a short motivational video for me.