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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

The Rivian is probably their real competition based on price, specs, and trim.

Rivian has better range despite being heavier, and is generally more useful and practical.

I happen to own two Rivians (S & T), definitely dubious purchases.. but not compared to a Cybertruck!

Btw the Tesla graffiti font is extremely disappointing, completely illegible and not even cool looking. How did marketing sign off on this?

Edit: @LightBug LoL!

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Inflation exists independently of Musk or Tesla. $61k is $51.6k in 2019 dollars.

This is backwards though. Musk announced the $40K truck in 2019 for initial delivery in 2021. $40K in 2019 is $42.3K in 2021. Even now, we're at $48K.

I'm no musk apologist... but Covidflation has got to be accounted for as well.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

The $7,500 at least is pretty legit, since in 2024 the IRS will let you get the discount at point of sale. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/ev-tax-credit-elect...

> $7,500 at least is pretty legit

You can't claim it if you make more than "$300,000 for a household, $150,000 for an individual or $225,000 for a head of household" [1]. That describes a decent fraction of the Cybertruck's target market.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2023/01/07/1147209505/electric-car-tax-c...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

The 911 Turbo S has a 0-60 time of 2.6 seconds, but Car and Driver clocked it at 2.2. Its quarter-mile time is 10.1 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-turbo-turbo-s I don't know what's going on with that video. If we take Tesla's numbers at face value, which I definitely don't given their history, the 911 Turbo S is dramatically faster on the straights. Is Tesla claiming that the Cybertruck gets faster…

It's clearly not a 911 Turbo or Turbo s. Probably a base 911.

Also not discounting tesla shenanigans. Would be easy enough to run the 1/4 a few times and get the 911 nice heat soaked and way down on power.

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Funny that the cheaper model's 0-60 time is listed as "4.1 SEC. 0-60 MPH", but the more expensive model is listed as "2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH With rollout subtracted." The whole rollout for 0-60 thing is a big fuss in the car magazine subculture - instead of counting zero to 60 from a standstill, they now count zero to 60 in a drag race style, where you have to trip the starting light by going forward a foot or two. What t…

From engineering explained the difference in the rollout for some fast cars is about 0.2-0.3 seconds on top of the actual number. Here’s the video https://youtu.be/9LTq45o0ttQ

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Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…

> this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle

This describes most vehicles.

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> > That's incredible marketing. Still the best statement to describe Musk and his companies.

Are you saying the best statement you can use to describe SpaceX is "incredible marketing"?

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Luddite is not synonym for technophobe. Sorry to interrupt, I believe it's an important distinction given Luddites' role in industrial society.
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