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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Funny that the cheaper model's 0-60 time is listed as "4.1 SEC. 0-60 MPH", but the more expensive model is listed as "2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH With rollout subtracted."

The whole rollout for 0-60 thing is a big fuss in the car magazine subculture - instead of counting zero to 60 from a standstill, they now count zero to 60 in a drag race style, where you have to trip the starting light by going forward a foot or two.

What that most likely means is that the fastest model doesn't have enough grip to keep the tires from spinning off the line, so they are basically spinning the tires for a fraction of a second (or longer) and then once they start to move forward, they start counting the 0-60 time. I imagine if you did the same for the cheaper model, it's 0-60 time would look better as well.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

The 911 Turbo S has a 0-60 time of 2.6 seconds, but Car and Driver clocked it at 2.2. Its quarter-mile time is 10.1 seconds.

https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-turbo-turbo-s

I don't know what's going on with that video. If we take Tesla's numbers at face value, which I definitely don't given their history, the 911 Turbo S is dramatically faster on the straights. Is Tesla claiming that the Cybertruck gets faster with a 911 in tow? If so, why isn't there an option for a 911 trailer?

Methinks Tesla is up to their old tricks!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer...

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations. It seems like all the electric trucks want to prove they are bigger and tougher than the ICE trucks, but it seems like the perfect platform for small trucks, as the the efficiency standards would become a moot point. I’m looking for trucks like the old Ford Ranger from the late 9…

Yep. And that's also why SUVs are the way they are - they fit the regulatory definition of "truck" and get different emissions and fuel efficiency rules as a result.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

#205

Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…

why do steer by wire at all? Is it cheaper somehow?

Hmmm.. I would guess decoupling would allow variable ratio steering based on speed or preferences.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Why is it a death-sentence-on-wheels?

It’s huge, weighs three tons, has the acceleration of a supersport, has only sharp edges. Like your usual US truck, but somehow even more asocial. If this was construction equipment or any other kind of machinery, you’d need so much training and insurance to just be allowed to touch it.

Have you seen the massive flat surface on the front of pretty much every pickup? It seems like if anything the hood angle would make it better than those.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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You can just click the "purchase price" tab instead of the "probable savings" tab.

Totally missed that subtle dark gray on black design element! You have to begin scrolling immediately to see the three trim levels, and by then, the tabs are lost forever. Quite literally fits the phrase "dark pattern", ha!

I mean clearly you can read it since it's the same text color and background color as the price you are complaining about, as well as all the specs.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

Here in Switzerland, you sometimes see e.g. a Piaggio Ape: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_Ape

And a number of construction jobs in our house were performed by a gentleman who arrived with a Vespa unless he specifically had to transport something sizeable.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…

I feel like it already has limited social value except as a sort of MAGA hat for Elon. I predict it’ll have some rabid adherents but also develop a reputation as a vehicle for assholes - already in a lot of circles the Tesla brand has a negative association due to Elon behaving like a nepo bully.

You know that's a good point. I know everyone in my circles will feel that way. You can get away driving a normal Tesla but this one is really going to say something in particular. That you also have this sort of immature brash attitude that has led to Musk's negative public opinion. So you are right that might tank the product.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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I am a car enthusiast (although not one who could afford either a 911 nor a Cybertruck) but respectfully, who cares about quarter mile times? Most car people I know want a car with some poke, but care much more about how it handles twisties (and how much fun it is doing so). And I'd bet my bottom dollar the 911 would beat the refrigerator-looking truck all day long.

But what if you need to help your friends move a quarter mile at a time as fast as possible?

We call it a sprint in software engineering and that is how we run marathons :)
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