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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by matthewdgreen »

raffraffraff wrote: post #79
outside1234 wrote: post #3

I can't wait to point and laugh at the first one of these I see. Just horrendously ugly.

I honestly think Musk kicked the designers out of the room and said "how hard can this be?", Then took up a pencil and ruler and drew exactly what you see , and told everybody "This is what we're building because it fucking rocks". It doesn't. It's a 12 year old boy's shitty drawing of dream car, and I guarantee you that his drawing included lots of stupid specs and measurements in a box to the side of it. And his na…

Apparently this is something close to the truth. https://insideevs.com/news/686770/some-tesla-staff-hated-cyb...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by zeusk »

mminer237 wrote: post #27

> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

How is it any different from $10,000 Full Self Driving "Autopilot" will be out anytime next year™

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by rich_sasha »

Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla.

I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing.

Then, it's all software driven. And it can't be air-gapped, because surely the various driver assistance programs need to turn the wheel. But so if the crappy OTA-updated software crashes, I can't steer? Or steering reverts, or who knows what.

Finally, I'm not holding my breath on a new membership option including "you can steer your car again".

I'm no Luddite, I'm keen for what technology can do for us, but some places I don't want it.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by shrubble »

rich_sasha wrote: post #133

Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Brake by wire has been a standard on many vehicles for at least a decade at this point.

I would guess that steer by wire is a standard off the shelf module. Both Bosch and ZF at the least offer this.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by caycep »

danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

I'd vote for updated bmw i3 as well. that thing was under appreciated.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by AYBABTME »

rich_sasha wrote: post #133

Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Given that my backup camera lags half the time I use it on my Model Y, I'm also not excited about this. But perhaps they'll have solved the whole real time thing in the process.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by 7e »

mminer237 wrote: post #27

> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

In most (32) states there are extra fees added to yearly EV registration to compensate for the lack of gas tax revenue, but Tesla never includes them in their calculations. Insurance costs and tire wear are usually much higher for Teslas, too. Neither does Tesla include the costs of the charger or the electrician's installation fees (~$1,000). Supercharging fees on road trips are completely ignored. It's also highly unlikely that anyone considering the purchase of these cars meets federal tax credit income thresholds ($7,500). Borderline fraudulent.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by baz00 »

rich_sasha wrote: post #133

Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Yeah look at planes. I'd rather have hydraulics and mechanical controls still in a car. Which is why I drive a primitive POS (Dacia Duster).
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