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The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by iforgotpassword »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #8
lynx23 wrote: post #2

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> Mastodon is apparently at least as bad as Meta. Wow. Such a comparison is mindblowing. You are apparently unaware that the default Mastodon web client is only one way of many which you can use to interface with a Mastodon instance. If you feel that there should be a plain HTTP(S) interface to its open API, feel free to advocate for one — or to create it yourself!

Don't care, the link goes to a site requiring JavaScript to read plain text and I don't want to build any workarounds for that.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by chrismorgan »

rglullis wrote: post #30

Aside: it is the second day in a row that a thread from Mastodon ends up on the frontpage of HN. When was the last time I Twitter thread did the same, and does anyone else doubts that Twitter is no longer at the center of tech-related conversation?

Based on https://news.ycombinator.com/front for the last ten days: one today, one five days ago, three seven days ago, two nine days ago.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by chrismorgan »

vanderZwan wrote: post #18
lynx23 wrote: post #2

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It's not a text article though, it's a public microblogging forum like Twitter, implemented with a protocol for which this just happens to be a web interface. And a forum with more features than the one we're on, most of which would be quite inconvenient to implement in a purely static website. Now, maybe what you're actually trying to say is that the content of the Mastodon thread should have been static website ins…

There’s a big gap between “static website” and “requires JS to render anything”. All you need is “serves meaningful HTML which it then enhances with JS”, possibly in the form of server-side rendering (I think it uses React?).

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by JimDabell »

rglullis wrote: post #30

Aside: it is the second day in a row that a thread from Mastodon ends up on the frontpage of HN. When was the last time I Twitter thread did the same, and does anyone else doubts that Twitter is no longer at the center of tech-related conversation?

A lot of the recent OpenAI events that were posted here were links to Twitter and I’ve seen plenty of people point this out as evidence that Twitter still is at the centre.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

locallost wrote: post #29

Everything's possible, but there would be no debate about UI mistakes if it was Iran shooting down a US plane. They would've done because they are evil by nature, or at least perceived as such. In that case the media and the public buys into its own reality, but of course the UI discussion could be a distraction from the public maybe starting to question if that's actually the reality. Also from the Wiki page about t…

One only has to see the differences between NATO bombing of serbian power stations vs the russians doing the same with Ukraine, or Israel killing children in gaza vs russian killing children vs the US killing afghan or Iraqi children.

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/25/us/crew-of-cruiser-that-d...

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by raverbashing »

locallost wrote: post #29

Everything's possible, but there would be no debate about UI mistakes if it was Iran shooting down a US plane. They would've done because they are evil by nature, or at least perceived as such. In that case the media and the public buys into its own reality, but of course the UI discussion could be a distraction from the public maybe starting to question if that's actually the reality. Also from the Wiki page about t…

Except the Soviets had visual confirmation of the target

Vincennes did not (which to be fair should have done - and not excusing their actions here)

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by lynx23 »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #8
lynx23 wrote: post #2

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> Mastodon is apparently at least as bad as Meta. Wow. Such a comparison is mindblowing. You are apparently unaware that the default Mastodon web client is only one way of many which you can use to interface with a Mastodon instance. If you feel that there should be a plain HTTP(S) interface to its open API, feel free to advocate for one — or to create it yourself!

Nope, sorry. I am too old and frustrated by modern web accessibility issues that I am not going to waste my time and "contribute" to this mess. A few years back, I would have tried to make the world a better place. These days, I have learnt that we blind people are no longer a factor for anything anymore. I bet LGBTQ people have a way higher chance to get what they want/need then people with disabilities hurt by the digital divide.

Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster

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Post by rglullis »

JimDabell wrote: post #35
rglullis wrote: post #30

Aside: it is the second day in a row that a thread from Mastodon ends up on the frontpage of HN. When was the last time I Twitter thread did the same, and does anyone else doubts that Twitter is no longer at the center of tech-related conversation?

A lot of the recent OpenAI events that were posted here were links to Twitter and I’ve seen plenty of people point this out as evidence that Twitter still is at the centre.

The OpenAI saga was such an outlier in the usual news cycle, it is hard to use it as a measure of anything.
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