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Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

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Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#131
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla said they would want to pick it up at the factory. The factory is putting them in nice packages to be delivered.

The factory says they can't do this. > According to the Transport Agency, current regulations mean it is only able to distribute number plates using Postnord.

The district court just ordered the Transport Agency to hand over the plates to Tesla within a week, Postnord be damned.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#132
post #7

The Swedish Transport Agency says they are only able to ship license plates using PostNord according to regulation, so I'm not sure how exactly Tesla thought they were going to win this lawsuit.

The court just ordered the agency to hand over the license plates to Tesla within a week.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#133
post #22
post #7

The Swedish Transport Agency says they are only able to ship license plates using PostNord according to regulation, so I'm not sure how exactly Tesla thought they were going to win this lawsuit.

I feel like this is more performative and/or grasping at straws, kinda like the recent X Corp v Media Matters suit.

The court just ordered the transport agency to hand over the license plates to Tesla within a week.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#134
post #32
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like this is more performative and/or grasping at straws, kinda like the recent X Corp v Media Matters suit.

Clearly performative IMO. The likely outcome is that the 100-odd employees Tesla have in Sweden are transferred to some other organization (with a union agreement) and Tesla proper just does not do business directly in Sweden.

Clearly performative?

The court just ordered the agency to hand over the license plates to Tesla within a week.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#135
post #70

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On the "what is the legal basis for..." I think Tesla is beginning a process to have their hinds (and stock price) protected. A businessman will not just raise his hands up in the air in despair and say "ok I will not proceed". No, he/Tesla is suing as they have every right to and if local/top Swedish court says "oops can't do anything" then they can easily escalate to a higher court (EU) will solve it for them. Mean…

Sounds like an extremely optimistic timeline for this suit to have gone through the Swedish administrative court, the Swedish administrative court of appeal, the Swedish Supreme Administrative Court, the EU legal system and have the EU legal system impose a penalty payment in 400 days. If Tesla has to do this, I'm guessing their cars are not going to have license plates for quite some time.

Wrong. The longer it takes the better for Tesla because they just won an interim decision in court.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#136
post #45

Welcome to Scandinavia! We hope you enjoy your stay.

They're enjoying the stay, they just won in court.

The court just ordered the agency to hand over the license plates to Tesla within a week.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#137
post #45

Welcome to Scandinavia! We hope you enjoy your stay.

They're enjoying the stay, they just won in court. The court just ordered the agency to hand over the license plates to Tesla within a week. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

Judge ordered temporary relief, it's not a final decision. Workers at the factory are also part of a union, so they may refuse to hand any plates out.

EDIT: And only Teslas side has been heard in court.

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#138
post #24

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Tesla is trying any means necessary since they know that Swedish labour laws are strong: if they do not have a union agreement, workers are allowed to strike (indefinitely). This vacuum we are now in is probably very costly for Tesla so I at this point I think it is an ideological/personal battle..

> This vacuum we are now in is probably very costly for Tesla i would assume the nordic markets are tiny compared to the RoW. does anyone here have any data on revenue from those markets for tesla?

Norway and Sweden are both top 5 countries in sold Teslas.

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#139
post #76

Why is this article at rank 324 (page 11) on the front page when it was posted 1 hour ago, has 33 points, and 70 comments currently. There's stuff on page 1 of the frontpage with 25 points, posted 8 hours ago, and has 5 comments.

SV / VCs dont like unionization talk.

Re: Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage

#140
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly performative IMO. The likely outcome is that the 100-odd employees Tesla have in Sweden are transferred to some other organization (with a union agreement) and Tesla proper just does not do business directly in Sweden.

Clearly performative? The court just ordered the agency to hand over the license plates to Tesla within a week. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...

First, this will not be decided by the tingsrätt, second, the context is wider than this single issue. The “performative” is why doesn’t Tesla just sign a union agreement, that is performative.
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