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Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by mikub »

deafpolygon wrote: post #133
okr wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do i remove teams or the stupid weather badge from the task bar? I can remove explorer and edge with a right-click, just those two i can not. It is inconsistent. That it is not impossible with a few more clicks and that i have to know, where to find it, well, duh.

On Windows 11 - Right click Taskbar - Choose "Taskbar Settings" - Untick Widget. Weather badge gone. - Untick Teams (if you have it- I don't, and don't have Teams popping up)

Sometimes I think people compalaining about windows are just to lazy to look through the settings and search for the things they want to change. Windows has a lot of things to complain and be 'angry' about, but 90% of the issues I see people mentionning are completly solvable with a few clicks.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by acomjean »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #11
buggythebug wrote: post #8

performance means nothing if the software you require doesn't run on it

Do you have particular applications on mind?

Anything Adobe falls into that camp saddly..

Luckly fewer and fewer bits of software remain.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by [deleted] »

underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by Workaccount2 »

underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

I have been switched for a year now, for the 4th? 5th? time in my life, and it looks like I'm gonna end up back on windows once again.

The perpetual problem with linux is that it is written and maintained by people who love linux. Its great if you just need a machine to check email, and it's great if you are well versed in linux OS structure and know the CLI command set/structure through and through.

But if you are middle of the road power user, linux is just a constant annoying nightmare of reading forum posts and copy+pasting seemingly random strings of characters into the terminal hoping that it will fix the sound issue on the video you're trying to play.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by throw555chip »

brightball wrote: post #117
underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

YMMV. I switched off of OSX as my primary machine around 2015 and moved to full time Linux. Just decided to commit and fully dove in. I tried several different flavors for months at a time from Fedora to Ubuntu. Eventually I settled on PopOS. I was really happy with everything up until my work shifted to management and spending > half my day on Zoom calls. For some reason, I periodically would have issues with periph…

> Still greatly prefer the Linux machine for everything else but the reliability of knowing that my peripherals are going to work for meetings has been important.

As a long time Ubuntu user, used to use Skype, now Teams, Google Meet, Google Voice (used to be Hangouts) and sometimes Zoom, I have had no issues, or no more than when work makes me use Windows, when using peripherals.

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Post by pawelduda »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #160
secondcoming wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re having to faff about with the registry every day you’re doing it wrong!

If you are never having to faff about with registry, then you are either lucky or using a different OS. I include installing a fresh copy of Windows to resolve the inevitable corrosion that Windows has over time.

> I include installing a fresh copy of Windows to resolve the inevitable corrosion that Windows has over time.

Remember that one from the past and countless times I had to do this for others because Windows would become a mess.

Nowadays I just upgrade old Linux distros running for 5+ years because of security concerns or out of boredom. Magically still running same as fresh install

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by throw555chip »

brightball wrote: post #151
pipe01 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried pipewire? It fixed some weird issues like the ones you mention for me

I have not. Any good links?

Yes Google "Ubuntu 2022" or "Kubuntu 2022" if you prefer KDE (I do), install and run it, that's all you have to do.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

calamari4065 wrote: post #152

I ran an experiment a while ago. My windows work machine takes a good 3 minutes to compile one of my C++ projects, but a Linux VM on that same machine builds the same project in 45 seconds. That's really all I need to know about Windows

On a work machine, that's more likely to be due to excessive background services installed by the company, particularly antivirus (which is known to kill disk performance, which means it's particularly awful for compiles). Don't get me wrong, I despise windows on its own merits, but I don't think that particular case is a fair comparison; there's a good chance that a completely clean windows VM in the same circumstances would also be faster. (Now, that might still be slower than linux, at which point we would have a fair comparison)

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by krylon »

phpisthebest wrote: post #73
jerf wrote: post #70

If Microsoft backs off core Windows development, which it certainly seems like they are, this is what we'd expect to see... not a big bang where it suddenly stops working, but every year it'll just sort of fall a bit more behind Linux, until in 4 or 5 years the difference consensus will slowly just creep over to Windows being noticeably worse than Linux without any big bang switchover... and it'll sneak up on Microso…

Microsoft should invest in Proton, make Windows apps work seamless on linux, and then just make a "Windows" replacement for Wayland that runs on Kernel... Then, and only then, will we have "The year of the linux desktop"

Hehe, that thought was going through my mind as well just now. It's not really such a far out idea; if Microsoft wanted to, they could certainly put the manpower behind it to make it happen. It would also be the most delicious plot twist ever.

But I don't think this is in the cards for the foreseeable future.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by vidarh »

gred wrote: post #81
jerf wrote: post #70

If Microsoft backs off core Windows development, which it certainly seems like they are, this is what we'd expect to see... not a big bang where it suddenly stops working, but every year it'll just sort of fall a bit more behind Linux, until in 4 or 5 years the difference consensus will slowly just creep over to Windows being noticeably worse than Linux without any big bang switchover... and it'll sneak up on Microso…

Interesting thought, but you might be missing the hardware perspective. I switched from Windows to Linux this year, and the biggest issue has been drivers and hardware compatibility: audio available via headphones but not (laptop) built-in speakers, occasional display issues depending on the monitor setup, occasional WiFi issues. If hardware innovation stopped, Linux could catch up easily... but it won't, so there is…

My latest PC was a pretty randomly chosen Chinese PC from Amazon that advertised Ubuntu compatibility. In other words, except that advantage to slowly slip away from Microsoft too.

It's been years since I really put any effort into checking before buying - it had gotten to the point I could assume that issues would be minor and/or resolved soon after purchase.

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