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YMMV. I switched off of OSX as my primary machine around 2015 and moved to full time Linux. Just decided to commit and fully dove in. I tried several different flavors for months at a time from Fedora to Ubuntu. Eventually I settled on PopOS. I was really happy with everything up until my work shifted to management and spending > half my day on Zoom calls. For some reason, I periodically would have issues with periph…
Have you tried pipewire? It fixed some weird issues like the ones you mention for me
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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#152That's really all I need to know about Windows
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#153I hope the community really gets behind Snap or Flatpak or one of the other systems for bringing a modern permissions and privileges system to the Linux desktop. It would help me be a lot more comfortable recommending Linux to non-technical people. What distro would you recommend to somebody like me who wants to be asked before an application gets access to my location, microphone, camera, network, etc...?
It's happened constantly since I started using Linux: KDE 4.0, PulseAudio, btrfs (to be fair, most distros didn't really push btrfs as a default), Wayland, etc, and now Flatpak and Snap.
And it's not to say that I don't understand the dilemma: you need to get user feedback to improve the tech, and the pool of Linux users is very small (for desktop stuff). But what that means is that desktop Linux is almost always in a state of partial brokenness. (And please also note that I'm giving a 100% pass on driver issues--that's a given when hardware manufacturers simply only care about working with Windows.)
Honestly, when it comes to "just working," desktop Linux is worse today than it was when I first installed it on my budget laptop in 2007. Wayland is mostly fine for my uses, but others still struggle with its missing features; snaps/flatpaks are slow, bloated, and have strange behaviors because of the permissions models that are NEVER going to be obvious to a casual computer user; and managing an Ubuntu install is still really bad UX.
As an example of the latter, I usually run an "expert" distro on my personal machines, but I decided to slap Ubuntu on a PC that I hooked up to my TV, and after a year or so of just chugging along and running updates whenever prompted, it started displaying errors that my boot partition was full. You've gotta be kidding me... THIS is supposed to be the "easy" distro for normal humans? How the hell do you expect non-tech people to micromanage the /boot partition and delete old kernels and shit?
So, while I agree with all of the technical issues and complaints about things like permissions, security, etc, that advocate for Wayland and Flatpaks/Snaps and whatever, you can't pretend to care about adoption while also pushing out half-baked technology to "stable" versions as though everyone will be happy with beta-at-best functionality.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
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Same here but the other way. I find Linux much simpler to grasp than endless hard to navigate menus, windows where each is from different land, registry, shell and what not. I rarely use Windows but when I do, it feels like MS either ruined it or I simply forgot how to do things. I used to think like you so I guess it's just a matter of taking the leap and learning new OS Bonus points: no ads, no Edge or Drive bullsh…
If you’re having to faff about with the registry every day you’re doing it wrong!
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#155I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
My 2c: If you use common PC hardware with standard peripherals, and stick to software in your distro's package manager, you're fine. Ubuntu and Mint are popular and easy-to-use choices. Most people have an easier time than I do, but it feels irresponsible not to post this; I've been trying Linux every few years for the past 20. My experience hasn't deviated much from this:
I've found that once you start installing drivers for non-standard hardware, or installing software not in your package manager, there's a pattern of
- C+P text into CLI
- Errors
- Sudo edit system config files
- Browse internet forums, Stack Overflow, and generally channel XKCD: 979. Tens of browser tabs open; hopefully one has the answer.
- End up kicked out of the GUI after a reboot
- The system is totalled, in that it's easier to do a clean install than fix it.
It feels like there's a tension between you're not supposed to use sudo except in special cases and you have to use sudo to do anything.Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#156I hope the community really gets behind Snap or Flatpak or one of the other systems for bringing a modern permissions and privileges system to the Linux desktop. It would help me be a lot more comfortable recommending Linux to non-technical people. What distro would you recommend to somebody like me who wants to be asked before an application gets access to my location, microphone, camera, network, etc...?
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
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#158performance means nothing if the software you require doesn't run on it
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#159I hope the community really gets behind Snap or Flatpak or one of the other systems for bringing a modern permissions and privileges system to the Linux desktop. It would help me be a lot more comfortable recommending Linux to non-technical people. What distro would you recommend to somebody like me who wants to be asked before an application gets access to my location, microphone, camera, network, etc...?
Flatpak... I'll warily try it for "user facing" apps.
But after a clusterfuck of trying to get a flatpak Jellyfin to work (HW accel fell over, and it wanted me to dumpster dive into flatseal to unsandbox it so that media OUTSIDE OF HOME could be accessed... never got around to looking at getting it to even boot at startup) I'll shy the hell away from it for daemons.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here but the other way. I find Linux much simpler to grasp than endless hard to navigate menus, windows where each is from different land, registry, shell and what not. I rarely use Windows but when I do, it feels like MS either ruined it or I simply forgot how to do things. I used to think like you so I guess it's just a matter of taking the leap and learning new OS Bonus points: no ads, no Edge or Drive bullsh…
If you’re having to faff about with the registry every day you’re doing it wrong!
I include installing a fresh copy of Windows to resolve the inevitable corrosion that Windows has over time.