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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by ryzvonusef »

jatins wrote: post #45
ryzvonusef wrote: post #22

> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…

Microsoft's role remains same as it was on Thursday. Minor (49%?) shareholder and keeps access to models and IP IMO Kevin tweeting that MS will hire and match comp of all OpenAI employees was amazing negotiation tactic because that meant employees could sign the petition without worrying about their jobs/visas

but no board seat? how do they prevent a rehash of this in the future and how do they safeguard their investment? Really curious.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by qsi »

meteor333 wrote: post #53
seydor wrote: post #35

Larry Summers and no females

How did Larry Summers get elected? Does he have any relation with AI research or Sam Altman? It’s also curious that none of the board members have necessarily have any experience directly with AI research

Not sure "elected" is the right way of looking at it. More like "selected" or "nominated" by Sam/MSFT perhaps. His main qualification may be that he's an adult?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by wokwokwok »

gzer0 wrote: post #33

Satya on twitter: We are encouraged by the changes to the OpenAI board. We believe this is a first essential step on a path to more stable, well-informed, and effective governance. Sam, Greg, and I have talked and agreed they have a key role to play along with the OAI leadership team in ensuring OAI continues to thrive and build on its mission. We look forward to building on our strong partnership and delivering the…

Unsaid: “Also I lied about hiring him.”

> And we’re extremely excited to share the news that Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, together with colleagues, will be joining Microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research team.

https://nitter.net/satyanadella/status/1726509045803336122

I guess everyone was just playing a bit loose and fast with the truth and hype to pressure the board.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by forrestthewoods »

gzer0 wrote: post #33

Satya on twitter: We are encouraged by the changes to the OpenAI board. We believe this is a first essential step on a path to more stable, well-informed, and effective governance. Sam, Greg, and I have talked and agreed they have a key role to play along with the OAI leadership team in ensuring OAI continues to thrive and build on its mission. We look forward to building on our strong partnership and delivering the…

Did Satya get played with the whole "Sam and Greg are joining Microsoft"? Was Satya in on a gambit to get the whole company to threaten to quit to force the board's hand?

It sure feels like a bad look for Satya to announce a huge hire Sunday night and then this? But what do I know.

Edit: don't know why the downvotes. You're welcome to think it's an obviously smart political move. That it's win/win either way. But it's a very fair question that every tech blogger on the planet will be trying to answer for the next month!

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by polyomino »

nothrowaways wrote: post #69
eganist wrote: post #8

Any analysis on how Satya Nadella comes out on all of this? Or what impact this might have at all within Microsoft?

Satya is still a winner, grabs less now though.

Satya wants to be able to book the OpenAI money as revenue. This is better for him.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

Barrin92 wrote: post #82
ryzvonusef wrote: post #22

> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…

The explanation for point 1 is point 3. If the people involved were not terminally online and felt the need to share every single one of their immediate thoughts with the public they could have likely settled this behind closed doors, where this kind of stuff belongs. It's not actually news, it's entertainment and self-aggrandizement by everyone involved including the audience.

Interesting that the board were repeatedly criticized for "not being adults", and yet they were also the only party not live-tweeting everything...

Seems like there's no way to win with Twitter. You may not be interested in Twitter, but Twitter is interested in you.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by arduanika »

Larry Summers is an excellent pick to call out bullshit and moderate any civil war, such as this EA - e/acc feud.

Kissinger (R, foreign policy) once said that Summers (D, economic policy) should be given an advisory post in any WH administration, to help shoot down bad ideas.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by nathanasmith »

tomohelix wrote: post #17

So, Ilya is out of the board, but Adam is still on it. I know this will raise some eyebrows but whatever. Still though, this isn't something that will just go away with Sam back. OAI will undergo serious changes now that Sam has shown himself to be irreplaceable. Future will tell but in the long terms, I doubt we will see OAI as one of the megacorps like Facebook or Uber. They lost the trust.

On the contrary, this saga has shown that a huge number of people are extremely passionate about the existence of OpenAI and it's leadership by Altman, much more strongly and in larger numbers than most had suspected. If anything this has solidified the importance of the company and I think people will trust it more that the situation was resolved with the light speed it was.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #49
tomohelix wrote: post #17

So, Ilya is out of the board, but Adam is still on it. I know this will raise some eyebrows but whatever. Still though, this isn't something that will just go away with Sam back. OAI will undergo serious changes now that Sam has shown himself to be irreplaceable. Future will tell but in the long terms, I doubt we will see OAI as one of the megacorps like Facebook or Uber. They lost the trust.

OAI looks stronger than ever. The untrustworthy bits that caused all this instability over the last 5 days have been ditched into the sea. Care to expand on your claim?

> The untrustworthy bits that caused all this instability over the last 5 days have been ditched into the sea

This whole thing started with Altman pushing a safety oriented non-profit into a tense contradiction (edit: I mean the 2019-2022 gpt3/chatgpt for-profit stuff that led to all the Anthropic people leaving). The most recent timeline was

- Altman tries to push out another board member

- That board member escalates by pushing Altman out (and Brockman off the board)

- Altman's side escalates by saying they'll nuke the company

Altman's side won, but how can we say that his side didn't cause any of this instability?

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