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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by seydor »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #22

> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…

Microsoft said they are OK with Sam returning to openAI. There are probbaly legal reasons why they prefer things to go back as it were

(Thank you for calling Twitter Twitter)

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by altpaddle »

I guess the main question is who else will be on the board and to what degree will this new board be committed to the Open AI charter vs being Sam/MSFT allies. I think having Sam return as CEO is a good outcome for OpenAI but hopefully he and Greg stay off the board.

It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission.

I was a bit alarmed by the allegations in this article

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/technology/openai-altman-...

Saying that Sam tried to have Helen Toner removed which precipitated this fight. The CEO should not be allowed to try and orchestrate their own board as that would remove all checks against their decisions.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by veqq »

Besides AI safety (a big besides), what does this actually mean? Adam won't be able to stop devday announcements about chatbots etc. Satya can continue using IP even after AGI? What else is different? Is Ilya the kind of guy to now leave after losing a board seat to political machinations? The pettiness of any real changes/gains leaves me in shock compared to the massive news flows we've seen.

I don't even understand what Sam brings to the table. Leadership? He doesn't seem great at leading an engineering or research department, he doesn't seem like an insightful visionary... At best, Satya gunning for him signalled continued strong investment in the space. Yet the majority of the company wanted to leave with him.

What am I missing?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by jatins »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #22

> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…

Microsoft's role remains same as it was on Thursday. Minor (49%?) shareholder and keeps access to models and IP

IMO Kevin tweeting that MS will hire and match comp of all OpenAI employees was amazing negotiation tactic because that meant employees could sign the petition without worrying about their jobs/visas

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by transcriptase »

Assuming they weren’t LARPing, that Reddit account claiming to have been in the room when this was all going down must be nervous. They wrote all kinds of nasty things about Sam, and I’m assuming the signatures on the “bring him back” letter would narrow down potential suspects considerably.

Edit: For those who may have missed it in previous threads, see https://old.reddit.com/user/Anxious_Bandicoot126

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by ssnistfajen »

rvz wrote: post #14

Once again the source is directly from Twitter / X and the news was announced from there. Dispelling the complete nonsense that the platform is 'dying'.

The problem is none of the alternatives offered a smooth UX transition. Mastodon is fragmented by design and Bluesky is gated to this day. There was never a true Digg-like event that caused user migration to reach critical mass. So people simply trickled back once the most volatile periods of post-Elon Twitter passed.

That doesn't change the fact post-Elon Twitter has severely degraded in terms of user experience (rate limits, blue check spam, API pay-wall, etc.) and Elon isn't doing the platform any favours by continuing to participate in detrimental ways (seen in the recent advertiser exodus).

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by ilikehurdles »

tomohelix wrote: post #17

So, Ilya is out of the board, but Adam is still on it. I know this will raise some eyebrows but whatever. Still though, this isn't something that will just go away with Sam back. OAI will undergo serious changes now that Sam has shown himself to be irreplaceable. Future will tell but in the long terms, I doubt we will see OAI as one of the megacorps like Facebook or Uber. They lost the trust.

OAI looks stronger than ever. The untrustworthy bits that caused all this instability over the last 5 days have been ditched into the sea. Care to expand on your claim?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by baking »

mlazos wrote: post #15

Looks like Satya will have all of the leverage after this. He kind of always did though, but the board has almost entirely been replaced. I don’t see any point to the non profit umbrella now.

Sure, you can dissolve it if you hand over all the assets to another 501(c)3 organization. Otherwise, you are stuck with it.
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