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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by nonethewiser »

quotemstr wrote: post #38
ryzvonusef wrote: post #22

> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…

> Twitter is still the best place to follow this and get updates, everyone is still make "official" statements on twitter, not sure how long this website will last but until then, this is the only portal for me to get news. It's only natural to confuse what is happening with what we wish to happen. After all, when we imagine something, aren't we undergoing a kind of experience? A lot of people wish Twitter were dying…

> A lot of people wish Twitter were dying, even though it's it, so they interpret evidence through a lens of belief confirmation rather than belief disproof.

Cognitive dissonance

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by gordon_freeman »

tomohelix wrote: post #17

So, Ilya is out of the board, but Adam is still on it. I know this will raise some eyebrows but whatever. Still though, this isn't something that will just go away with Sam back. OAI will undergo serious changes now that Sam has shown himself to be irreplaceable. Future will tell but in the long terms, I doubt we will see OAI as one of the megacorps like Facebook or Uber. They lost the trust.

Facebook has lost trust so many times that I can’t even count but it’s still a Megacorp, isn’t it?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by meteor333 »

seydor wrote: post #35

Larry Summers and no females

How did Larry Summers get elected? Does he have any relation with AI research or Sam Altman?

It’s also curious that none of the board members have necessarily have any experience directly with AI research

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by doctoboggan »

I really did not think that would happen. I guess the obvious next question is what happens to Ilya? From this announcement it appears he is off the board. Is he still the chief scientist? I find it hard to believe he and Sam would be able to patch their relationship up well enough to work together so closely. Interesting that Adam stayed on the board, that seems to disprove many of the theories floating around here that he was the ringleader due to some perceived conflict of interest.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

Did we ever find out why Sam Altman's removal happened in the first place? The reasons I've read so far seem really opaque.

From an outsider's perspective, and until there's a clear explanation available, it just seems like a massive bundler.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by ryzvonusef »

r721 wrote: post #29

Quote tweets by main participants: https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727206691262099616 (+ follow-up https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883 ) https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1727206609477411261 https://twitter.com/miramurati/status/1727206862150672843 UPD https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1727208843137179915 https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598 https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/17272076…

also satya

https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1727207661547233721

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by kneel »

veqq wrote: post #44

Besides AI safety (a big besides), what does this actually mean? Adam won't be able to stop devday announcements about chatbots etc. Satya can continue using IP even after AGI? What else is different? Is Ilya the kind of guy to now leave after losing a board seat to political machinations? The pettiness of any real changes/gains leaves me in shock compared to the massive news flows we've seen. I don't even understand…

>He doesn't seem great at leading an engineering or research department

Under Sam's leadership they've opened up a new field of software. Most of the company threatened to leave if he didn't return. That's incredible leadership.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by fatbird »

siva7 wrote: post #3

Interesting that Adam is still on Board. This hints to Helen being the main perpetrator of the drama?

Or it was recognized that Adam was the instigator and the real power player, and the force that Sam needed to come to an accommodation with. From everything I've heard about Toner, she's a very principled person who lent academic credibility to the board, and was a great figurehead for the non-profit's conscience. Once the veneer was ripped from the non-profit's "controlling" role, she was deadweight and useful only as a scapegoat.

It looks to me like the real victim here is the "for humanity" corporate structure. At some point, the money decided it needed to be free.

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