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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Incredible. Is this unprecedented or have been other cases in history where the vast majority of employees standup against the board in favor of their CEO?

Jobs was fired from Apple, and a number of employees followed him to Next. Different, but that's the closest parallel.

Only a very small number of people left with Jobs. Of course, probably mainly because he couldn't necessarily afford to hire more without the backing of a trillion-dollar corporation...

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There will also be a Hollywood movie, for sure. My friend suggested Michael Cera as both Ilya and Altman

Matt Rife looks like a good fit to play Altman

Why not deepfake the real people into their roles?

I think it would hold up in US court for documentaries.

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The people responsible for calling for the sacking of the people who sacked the CEO, have just been sacked.

Honestly beginning to wonder if this is all just a marketing stunt.

Yep, starting to get a real professional-wrestling vibe here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…

> compromise a few important people*

Haven't 700 or so of the employees signed onto the letter? Hard to argue it's just a few important people who've been compromised when it's almost the entire company.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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I don't grok the original tweet very well, and I don't understand what Musk means by his reply. Can someone ELI5?

Musk doesn't like the ADL. Media are spinning this as "anti-semitic," hoping the emotions around the issues will prevent most people from reading carefully.

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Incredible. Is this unprecedented or have been other cases in history where the vast majority of employees standup against the board in favor of their CEO?

Market Basket.

I had to click too many links to discover the story, so here's a direct link to the New England Market Basket story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_Basket_(New_England)#20...

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Because the mission is visibly abandoned. There's nothing "open" about OpenAI. We may not know how the mission was abandoned but we know Sam was CEO, hence responsible.

There was never anything open about open ai. If there were I should have access to their training data, training infra setup and weights. The only thing that changed is the reason why the unwashed masses aren't allowed to see the secret sauce: from alignment to profit. A plague on both their houses.

They don't publish papers now, they actually published papers and code before.

No doubt OpenAI was never a glass house... but it seems extremely disingenuous to say their behavior hasn't changed.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Scientists are easily blindsided by psychos dealing with enormous amounts of money and power. They also happen to suck at politics.

100%. Technical staff rarely have exceptional political awareness and that seems to be the case this weekend. To be fair we don't know what triggered everything so while the dust settles this position may change.

Yeah clearly, at least I have no clue what really happened and don't feel like I have enough info to put anything together at this point.
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