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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by brookst »

Arson9416 wrote: post #61

The fact that these people aren't currently willing to "rewind the clock" about a week shows the dangers of human ego. Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply, if all parties agree to undo it. What we're watching now is the effect of ego momentum on decision making. Try it. It's not a crazy idea. Put everything back the way it was a week ago and then agree to move forward. It will be like h…

The problem is you can’t erase memories. Rewind the clock, sure. But why would someone expect a different outcome from the same setup?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by jacquesm »

rvz wrote: post #38

Given that Ilya switched sides now, it leaves with 3 BOD members that are at the helm. The one that is really overlooked in this case is the CEO of Quora, Adam D'Angelo, who has a competing interest with Poe and Quora that he sunk his own money into it which ChatGPT and GPTs makes his platform irrelevant. So why isn't anyone here talking about the conflict of interest with Adam D'Angelo as one of the board members wh…

Oh, people are talking about it, just not as loud. But I think you are dead on: that's the main burning issue at the moment and D'Angelo may well be reviewing his options with his lawyer by his side. Because admitting fault would open him up to liability immediately but there aren't that many ways to exit stage left without doing just that. He's in a world of trouble and I suspect that this is the only thing that has caused him to hold on to that board seat: to have at least a fig leaf of coverage to make it seem as if his acts are all in line with his conscience instead of his wallet.

If it turns out he was the instigator his goose is cooked.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by tempsy »

paulddraper wrote: post #18

As of 10am PT, 700 of 770 employees have signed the call for board resignation. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/joannejang/status/1726667504133808242

Apparently Sam isn't in the Microsoft employee directly yet, so he isn't technically hired at all. Seems like he loses a bit of leverage over the board if they think he & Microsoft are actually bluffing and the employment announcement was just a way to pressure the board into resigning.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by saturdaysaint »

mongol wrote: post #58

This is entertaining in a way, and interesting to follow. But should I, as an ordinary member of mankind, root for one outcome or another? Is it going to matter for me how this ends up? Will AI be more or less safe one or other way, will it be bad for competition, prices, etc etc?

If you use ChatGPT or find it to be a compelling technology, there’s good reason to root for a reversion to the status quo. This could set back the state of the art consumer AI product quite a few months as teams reinvent the wheel in a way that doesn’t get them sued when they relaunch.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

brookst wrote: post #124
belter wrote: post #36

It seems the next step, is the board to sign the letter calling for the board resignation. The insanity will be complete, and all can get back to therapy.

The people responsible for calling for the sacking of the people who sacked the CEO, have just been sacked.

Honestly beginning to wonder if this is all just a marketing stunt.

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Post by cthalupa »

Multiplayer wrote: post #103
Multiplayer wrote: post #5

I'm very unclear on how board members can remove other board members. If Sam, Greg and Ilya are on the same "team" now that's 3.... vs. 3. What's the mechanism at use here for board removal and how quickly does it happen? And who elects the board members. This is silly.

Boards that I have been on do not allow board members to remove other board members - only shareholders can remove board members. I don't know why this is being downvoted.

There are no shareholders in a non-profit. Who would remove boardmembers besides a majority decision by the board?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by janalsncm »

brookst wrote: post #124
belter wrote: post #36

It seems the next step, is the board to sign the letter calling for the board resignation. The insanity will be complete, and all can get back to therapy.

The people responsible for calling for the sacking of the people who sacked the CEO, have just been sacked.

If you want to lay everyone off, maybe laying off HR first wasn’t the smartest move.
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