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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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That s a great twist in the writer's storyline. Board quits, Altman + Brockman returns to openAI, shamed Sutskever defects to microsoft where he leads the AI division in a lifelong quest to take revenge for this humiliation.

He humiliated himself when succumbed to pressure and tweeted that apology.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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The fact that these people aren't currently willing to "rewind the clock" about a week shows the dangers of human ego. Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply, if all parties agree to undo it. What we're watching now is the effect of ego momentum on decision making. Try it. It's not a crazy idea. Put everything back the way it was a week ago and then agree to move forward. It will be like h…

Small amount of residual consequences? The employees are asking for the board to resign. So their jobs are literally on the line. That's not really a small consequence for most people.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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As of 10am PT, 700 of 770 employees have signed the call for board resignation. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/joannejang/status/1726667504133808242

Incredible. Is this unprecedented or have been other cases in history where the vast majority of employees standup against the board in favor of their CEO?

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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The fact that these people aren't currently willing to "rewind the clock" about a week shows the dangers of human ego. Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply, if all parties agree to undo it. What we're watching now is the effect of ego momentum on decision making. Try it. It's not a crazy idea. Put everything back the way it was a week ago and then agree to move forward. It will be like h…

> Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply

...aside from accusing Sam Altman of essentially lying to the board?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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>we are all going to work together some way or other, and i’m so excited. I think this means Sam is pushing for OpenAI to be acquired by Microsoft officially now, instead of just unofficially poaching everyone.

Is it even possible for that to happen? The entity that governs OpenAI is a registered charity with a well defined purpose, it would seem odd for it to be able to just say "Actually, screw our mission let's just sell everything valuable to this for-profit company". A big part of being a 501(c)(3) is being tax exempt, difficult to see the IRS being ok with this. Even if they were the anti-trust implications are huge,…

Yes, a charity can sell assets to a for-profit business. (Now, if there is self-dealing or something that amounts to gifting to a for-profit, that raises potential issues, as might a sale that cannot be rationalized as consistent with being the board's good faith pursuit of the mission of the charity.)

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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post #53

As of 10am PT, 700 of 770 employees have signed the call for board resignation. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/joannejang/status/1726667504133808242

Incredible. Is this unprecedented or have been other cases in history where the vast majority of employees standup against the board in favor of their CEO?

Market Basket.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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It will be wild to see all of these employees leave to work for Microsoft (or turn OpenAI into a for profit) and in the process hand Sam and a few other CXX folks a huge chunk of equity in a new multi billion dollar venture.

I'm guessing Sam will walk away with at least 20% of whatever OpenAI turns into.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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I couldn’t make up a more ridiculous plot even if I tried. At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if Musk got involved. It’s already ridiculous enough, why not.

Currently, there are shareholders petitioning the board of Tesla for him to be suspended due to the antisemitic posts. Maybe this will be the week of the CEO's... :-)
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