What do you guys think to GrayJay? Following the creators, not the platforms. I'm told sponser block is in the works too. https://grayjay.app/
When it is open source and available on Linux I am sold.
The source is open
NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
Might as well skip the whole video!
In the limit: might as well tune out everything and skip life. The other limit: all things must be consumed exactly as delivered, and we must consume everything we can. (I'll disregard selection / filtering algorithm.) The healthy medium is to consume, analyze, and synthesize how it makes sense for your particular style of traversing the information topology. Climb the gradients you want. Go as deep or as shallow as…
This reminds me of a game jam where the guy I was working with was watching a tutorial video at like 2.5x. I was shocked at the time yet later realized the brilliance. He learned so much faster that way. Now I have a hard time with less than 3x when watching some creators.
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#373Don't forget about android TV :-) There is SmartTubeNext with ad/sponsor block and most importantly it let's you remove shorts, news, games, music, transmissions. And it is open source.
I wish SmartTube was able to connect to Invidious instances. As Google is getting more and more aggressive against ad blockers, I’d like to be able to put one more “insurance” barrier in place in case they end up start banning accounts. SmartTube is far and away the best YouTube client for androidTV, legitimate or otherwise though. Even if I was paying for YouTube premium, SmartTube would still provide an objectively better viewing experience.
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#374Earlier quoted context omitted.
The parent wrote > You can also subscribe to channels from it without a YouTube account. This means that losing your Google account does not mean losing your playlist. Big tech accounts can be surprisingly fragile.
FYI Google takeout lets you set regular, automatic exports of any of your Google data (e.g. you can have a backup of your YouTube subscriptions, playlists etc emailed to you every month).
> you can have a backup of your YouTube subscriptions, playlists etc emailed to you every month
Sent to your gmail account? :D
Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
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Yeah this is the best version. I liked newpipe but their attitude to sponsorblock is tiring. But I moved to libretube now. Newpipe kept throwing up errors when I jumped around a video.
I use sponsorblock on desktop, and sometimes I find the parts that they skip annoying. I don't fully agree with where and when they skip things. Watching Hot Ones today, they had a segment about how they have Hot Ones Hot Pockets now. and it skipped over it. But also, the hot pockets were a big part of the episode. For LTT videos, they skip the entire segue, instead of leaving the segue and then skipping the sponsor.…
SponsorBlock has a lot of configurability: segments can be marked as various different things, so it's not all-or-nothing. You can set it to skip certain types of segments, and show other types. As for where things start and stop, it's crowdsourced, so you're relying on some volunteer to get those time points correct. I think it's possible to upload your own corrections, but I haven't played around with it much.
Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
#376Paying $1 to a creator earn them more than all the ads you would watch during your lifetime. Applies to websites also. But noone wants to pay.
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People want content without any inconvenience, it’s that simple. If they use ads they will block. If they ask for payment they will pirate. Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with
Total nonsense. Before all this advertising nonsense, the web used to be literally full of people who had enough intrinsic motivation to create without compensation. People used to literally pay to have their own website in order to get their ideas out there. Open source is literally proof of this. I make software in my free time simply because I enjoy it. I publish it out there in a variety of licenses with zero exp…
>People used to literally pay to have their own website in order to get their ideas out there.
Somewhat; at first, this was the case, though I'd say many of them were simply using their university's computer resources. Later on, banner ads happened and then we had sites like Tripod, where people could build their own simple website and not pay anything for it. Somehow, these sites did just fine (for a while) by hosting banner ads. These days, somehow it supposedly costs a small fortune to run a simple website even though computers are FAR more powerful than they were in 1999 and computer hardware generally costs much less.
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> Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with Most authors write books without making any money for years. They write because they enjoy writing. Not because they need it to make a living. So your statement is easily invalidated by reality
They write because they enjoy writing, but they also need to make a living. Those things are not exclusive.
They don't need to make a living. They're already making a living by doing some other job, probably a boring job. They're writing because they enjoy writing, and there might be a financial payoff, but it's certainly not something they're banking on. It's just like aspiring actors; they work as restaurant servers to make a living, hoping to become a big star. It's not really a good career move; if you want a low-risk high-paycheck career, you do something unglamorous and boring, like writing software, or some other office job that requires a college degree.
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#379Now that Google is cracking down on adblockers, are any 3rd-party apps like this going to survive? I'm assuming Google's going to do things to break them. Which makes me worried about yt-dlp as well -- sometimes I download educational videos and other useful content I'm worried might get deleted, and with the crackdown on adblockers, I'm worried the ability to download videos will just completely cease to exist.
>sometimes I download educational videos and other useful content I'm worried might get deleted
I've seen enough stuff on the web (not just YouTube) deleted that now, I try to always download and archive anything I think I might want to look at again in the future. You just never know when it's going to disappear. These services cannot be trusted to retain anything for the future.
>with the crackdown on adblockers, I'm worried the ability to download videos will just completely cease to exist.
I really don't see how this is possible, technically. As long as they're sending data to people to view on their own computers, it's just not possible to prevent copying that data. The only thing they can do is make it more difficult, but unless they change to requiring people to use a proprietary application to view that data, there's only so much they can do while making stuff that can be viewed in a web browser. Companies have been trying to come up with copy-protection schemes for decades and still haven't succeeded; the only times they've arguably done so is when they completely controlled the whole platform (and even then, eventually people cracked it if it was popular enough).
I think it's always just going to be an arms race between the content purveyors and the crackers, so there will only be short periods where copying will be impossible, until the crackers figure out the new scheme. What's much more important, IMO, is the issue of content simply being deleted or otherwise inaccessible. We see this all the time now.
Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
#380I had trouble switching to alternative clients because I rely on algorithmic feed for new content. However I have a perfect application for NewPipe. I like to run it quietly in the background as I fall asleep. Murmur of a voice too quiet to understand helps me sleep. Ads were making that use case impossible. Another use case is downloading music I like. I used YouTube for music discovery an ingestion. Now after I fin…
>Now after I find something good I go to NewPipe and dowlnoad it as local audio file and enjoy it like it's good old times of napster and mp3-s.
I haven't tried NewPipe, but you can easily download audio streams on YouTube using yt-dlp. It even lets you see all the available stream options and pick the one you want, so if you prefer opus or aac, you can select that.