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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by endisneigh »

micw wrote: post #45
DrNosferatu wrote: post #12

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

People want content without any inconvenience, it’s that simple.

If they use ads they will block.

If they ask for payment they will pirate.

Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by davkan »

namrog84 wrote: post #54
anoncow wrote: post #42

I can't find a source which has all the financial figures for YouTube, but YouTube had a gross revenue of 29 bn USD in 2022. Alphabet had 55 bn USD in net income in 2022 of which how much was YouTube's share in the net income is unknown (or at least I couldn't find it). Let's use some assumptions to get to a number. 1. Let's assume that out of the 29 bn USD revenue that YouTube brings in 55% is shared with creators.…

I wonder if a torrent style equivalent for bandwidth sharing for things like YouTube content creators could work. Like you get ads unless you seed enough and then no ads when you consume. I think it'd only work as a near seamless ui experience and not actually using torrents or any extra setup or complications. Probably branded a bit differently.

The problem with p2p for video is that the storage and bandwidth requirements are enormous most platform consumers are using mobile devices with limited storage and bandwidth which would have difficulty contributing to the network.

Maybe some type of appliance one could run out of their home to buy in or something? But a lot of home users have terrible upload or no internet at all.

Peertube is great but could never keep up with the sheer volume of data uploaded to YouTube.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by scotty79 »

I had trouble switching to alternative clients because I rely on algorithmic feed for new content. However I have a perfect application for NewPipe. I like to run it quietly in the background as I fall asleep. Murmur of a voice too quiet to understand helps me sleep. Ads were making that use case impossible.

Another use case is downloading music I like. I used YouTube for music discovery an ingestion. Now after I find something good I go to NewPipe and dowlnoad it as local audio file and enjoy it like it's good old times of napster and mp3-s.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by Zambyte »

grudg3 wrote: post #49
noman-land wrote: post #15

NewPipe is the best. Dunno how people watch YouTube without it. You can also subscribe to channels from it without a YouTube account.

Agree, but unfortunately I still can't use it to stream to my Chromecast so I need to go to the YouTube app when I want to play stuff on TV

Can't you just display your screen using chromecast? I use newpipe on my tv all the time by juat plugging my phone in via HDMI.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by endisneigh »

k8sToGo wrote: post #38
judge2020 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

I don’t mind paying. I do mind paying $15 and then see still ads (Thanks to NordVPN for sponsoring this comment). Plus the algorithm keeps getting worse and worse. I’d prefer to pay like $5. I don’t need YouTube music.

I don’t understand this logic. Why do you think it would be cheaper without YouTube music? YouTube music literally is just YouTube. Every song on there can be found on YouTube, the only reason it’s even a separate app and included in premium is due to the lack of ads facilitating a better music listening experience.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by alkonaut »

meindnoch wrote: post #68
alkonaut wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are the ads even skippable on YouTube? I have never really had a good answer to that. I mean, why is the ad even a different stream or detectable on the client? Shouldn't the ads just be spliced into the videos if you really want to make sure people watch them? Is it because it would be prohibitively expensive to do that kind of live encoding for each viewer?

Because you could just seek over them?

Yes, but the server knows exactly what frames it has sent you and when. If you don't want to watch the ad frames there's nothing the server can do, but it can make sure to not send you the frame that comes after the ad, until the 10 seconds of the ad has passed since it sent you the last frame before the ad.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by mcpackieh »

micw wrote: post #45
DrNosferatu wrote: post #12

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

Besides skipping sponsor segments, it has many other useful features such as marking/skipping intros and outros, filler/jokes, and marking the timestamp of the video highlight which is useful if you want to skip 20 minutes of filler and jump to the part the thumbnail promises.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by m4rtink »

grudg3 wrote: post #49
noman-land wrote: post #15

NewPipe is the best. Dunno how people watch YouTube without it. You can also subscribe to channels from it without a YouTube account.

Agree, but unfortunately I still can't use it to stream to my Chromecast so I need to go to the YouTube app when I want to play stuff on TV

SmartTube supports Chromecast/Android TV: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube
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