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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Yeah this is the best version. I liked newpipe but their attitude to sponsorblock is tiring. But I moved to libretube now. Newpipe kept throwing up errors when I jumped around a video.

> I liked newpipe but their attitude to sponsorblock is tiring.

What do they mean? They dont even want to provide it as an option?

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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I also recommend GrayJay https://GrayJay.app

Just a small note about it: it's not open-source and their excuse is… pretty poor. They don't give you modification rights at all, so you can't even legally contribute to the project.

The platform support is implemented inside "plugins" and they are under AGPL-3.0, so… can you even distribute the application, considering that the licence of the application and plugins seem to be incompatible at my non-lawyer first glance?

Their excuse for their application licence so that they can legally prevent people from uploading ad-infested versions in Google Play and similar platforms under their name… but that's why MPL 2.0 and Apache 2.0 have trademark exclusion clauses.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #45

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

> In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators.

There is no good reason to force ads on anyone. I dont care if the creator needs to make a living out of youtube. Thats their problem and they should use stuff like patreon instead.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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I can't find a source which has all the financial figures for YouTube, but YouTube had a gross revenue of 29 bn USD in 2022. Alphabet had 55 bn USD in net income in 2022 of which how much was YouTube's share in the net income is unknown (or at least I couldn't find it). Let's use some assumptions to get to a number. 1. Let's assume that out of the 29 bn USD revenue that YouTube brings in 55% is shared with creators.…

> Let's assume that out of the 29 bn USD revenue that YouTube brings in 55% is shared with creators. Thus we are left with 13 bn USD.

That’s a very poor and totally off assumption to start with, and makes it seem like YouTube is extremely generous. I’d guess YouTube shares, at best, 20% of the ad revenue with the content creator.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your use of the Service is subject to these terms, the YouTube Community Guidelines and the Policy, Safety and Copyright Policies which may be updated from time to time (together, this "Agreement"). https://www.youtube.com/t/terms Even if you don't think you have to follow them, they can still ban you for not following their terms, or not agreeing to them. They are not under an obligation to serve you video unauthe…

There’s a terms.txt on my desktop that says by sending me data my browser can choose whether or not to render it. By sending me video data you agree to these terms.

And they're blocking you from receiving video? That's the whole point of this post.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a terms.txt on my desktop that says by sending me data my browser can choose whether or not to render it. By sending me video data you agree to these terms.

And they're blocking you from receiving video? That's the whole point of this post.

Not sure what you mean. I can view them just fine.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#207
Is there somewhere a curated list of good YouTube channels, since the recommendation engine of YT won't work with these apps (or at least I guess that they won't work with them)?

Like a RSS with a channel list containing channels like Jeff Geerling, Code to the Moon, Jon Gjengset, Everyday Astronaut and the like?

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

The human ability to rationalise blocking out sponsored advertising is basically infinite.

The human ability to justify ads is apparently also infinite but has much less valid arguments

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#209
post #45

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

In most cases sponsored content has the same problem as traditional ads but because it is coming directly from someone people see as more reliable viewers might fall for it quicker. With the added disadvantage of those ads having no real regulation and opaque quality checks, if any by the creator.

One example that comes to mind is how a lot of financial creators pushed crypto products.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#210
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

People want content without any inconvenience, it’s that simple. If they use ads they will block. If they ask for payment they will pirate. Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with

> Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with

Most authors write books without making any money for years. They write because they enjoy writing. Not because they need it to make a living. So your statement is easily invalidated by reality

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