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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by gsich »

ndriscoll wrote: post #67
micw wrote: post #45

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Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

I see two scenarios: 1. The computer doesn't know whether you skipped the ad, and won't feel bad when you do. 2. The computer does track whether you watch the ad segment, and that information makes it back to the advertiser. Personally, I wouldn't want to support "creators" spying on me in this way. In either case, the creator has no costs for you watching, and youtube has lower costs if you skip the sponsored segmen…

At least for Youtube the 2nd statement is true. You can see it in videos with the spike after an ad segment.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by bisby »

wkat4242 wrote: post #127
DrNosferatu wrote: post #12

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Yeah this is the best version. I liked newpipe but their attitude to sponsorblock is tiring. But I moved to libretube now. Newpipe kept throwing up errors when I jumped around a video.

I use sponsorblock on desktop, and sometimes I find the parts that they skip annoying. I don't fully agree with where and when they skip things. Watching Hot Ones today, they had a segment about how they have Hot Ones Hot Pockets now. and it skipped over it. But also, the hot pockets were a big part of the episode. For LTT videos, they skip the entire segue, instead of leaving the segue and then skipping the sponsor. The segues are a meme. They aren't sponsorship. Another channel I watch tests microphones and uses ad read to demo demo different mic quality. At that point skipping the ad read is skipping the actual content of the video. There's a few channels that mix the ad read into the context of what they are doing, and skipping those sections skips over important context for the rest of the video, and then i have to rewind into the sponsor part to see what is going on.

I actually agree with newpipe to some degree. There is very bad sponsorship, and there is light mentions of sponsorship or sponsorship adjacent content. not everything is black or white. Sponsorblock makes it all or nothing (they have different categories but I often disagree with what they put into the categories).

I wish I could turn it on per channel. because some channels I hate the 2 minute long brilliant ads, but on other channels Im fine with a 5 second "we're building this thing using X company parts because X company is sponsoring the video"

I still use it, but i find it just as frustrating as it is helpful sometimes.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by etedor »

judge2020 wrote: post #149
etedor wrote: post #124

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What terms? I don’t recall agreeing to any?

> Your use of the Service is subject to these terms, the YouTube Community Guidelines and the Policy, Safety and Copyright Policies which may be updated from time to time (together, this "Agreement"). https://www.youtube.com/t/terms Even if you don't think you have to follow them, they can still ban you for not following their terms, or not agreeing to them. They are not under an obligation to serve you video unauthe…

There’s a terms.txt on my desktop that says by sending me data my browser can choose whether or not to render it. By sending me video data you agree to these terms.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

charcircuit wrote: post #105
Nextgrid wrote: post #84

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If you watch YouTube enough you'll basically become aware of all the sponsors pretty quickly (and may even be a customer of some already!), so any exposure beyond that is a waste of time for all involved - if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either.

>if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either. There is still value to the sponser in keeping a brand fresh in your mind

That's why when you see an advertisement and recognize it you should make a deliberate effort to remember why you dislike the brand. If the advertiser gets to wish for awareness, I'm entitled to be the monkey's paw.

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Post by freshhawk »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #156
endisneigh wrote: post #71

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People want content without any inconvenience, it’s that simple. If they use ads they will block. If they ask for payment they will pirate. Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with

Total nonsense. Before all this advertising nonsense, the web used to be literally full of people who had enough intrinsic motivation to create without compensation. People used to literally pay to have their own website in order to get their ideas out there. Open source is literally proof of this. I make software in my free time simply because I enjoy it. I publish it out there in a variety of licenses with zero exp…

When your job depends on it you tend to work really hard at believing that advertising is necessary and actually it's good, actually actually relevant ads are helpful! After all, if it wasn't then what am I doing with my life?

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by chii »

jaquesy wrote: post #10

I've been using this for years to download YouTube videos when I go on trips, it makes it super easy since you can just share the link directly from YouTube to NewPipe and it'll pop up a neat download UI to select quality and threads to use. Really great app for that purpose, although I will say I just used ReVanced for general YouTube browsing on my phone.

I believe the one thing i see lacking for newpipe is viewing livestreams. Revanced is the way to go for a good youtube experience, but i use newpipe for downloading and saving a video offline.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by rglullis »

judge2020 wrote: post #108
asimops wrote: post #58

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I have zero issues with paying in general. What I don't see, is me paying for the worse service. Youtube Premium is 12.99€ a month for me. For that small price I get to create a Google Account, accept their TOS, let them track and profile me, keep logging in everywhere (because I delete all local storage in the browser routinely) and replace the small and efficient NewPipe with the Youtube app. Futhermore I cannot do…

Those are the terms YouTube sets out when providing you with the service. You can either pay for it (as the terms set out), watch with ads (as the terms set out), or not watch it. All other use is effectively piracy, and they have the legal and arguably moral* right to block you for not following it. * Yes, it does cost them money to serve and store videos, and no that doesn't disappear with scale. YouTube ingests hu…

> watch with ads (as the terms set out)

There is nothing there forcing me to watch the ads, or that forces the user agent (aka the browser) to behave in the way that server running the application wishes to.

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