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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

Despite the name, it actually blocks a lot more than just sponsors. It can be set to automatically skip intros, outros, recaps, like and subscribe reminders, non-music sections of music videos, and other "fluff".

It significantly boosts the signal to noise ratio, and makes YouTube a much better experience.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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> I'm sure Apple is going to delist it from the App Store at some point (App Store guidelines are just that, guidelines, and there's no getting around them with a weird loophole like you can do with actual laws), but it works for now. Hence F-Droid, which cannot exist on iOS.

Not yet! The EU’s Digital Markets Act will go into force soon.

True! Unfortunately, I fully expect Apple to keep alternate app stores locked out in other locales. I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong, but they've been so determined in fighting this that it seems likely they'll consider it to be worth the extra work.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not having that option.

The big benefit of newpipe besides skipping ads is that you don't need an account. Which you need for those upvotes anyway.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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I have zero issues with paying in general. What I don't see, is me paying for the worse service. Youtube Premium is 12.99€ a month for me. For that small price I get to create a Google Account, accept their TOS, let them track and profile me, keep logging in everywhere (because I delete all local storage in the browser routinely) and replace the small and efficient NewPipe with the Youtube app. Futhermore I cannot do…

Those are the terms YouTube sets out when providing you with the service. You can either pay for it (as the terms set out), watch with ads (as the terms set out), or not watch it. All other use is effectively piracy, and they have the legal and arguably moral* right to block you for not following it. * Yes, it does cost them money to serve and store videos, and no that doesn't disappear with scale. YouTube ingests hu…

Of course they get insane volume discounts. All big tech companies do. It makes me cry to see how much we pay for a ThinkPad. I wish I could buy one for that :')

Regarding morals I don't don't care. Not worth a discussion :)

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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>if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either. There is still value to the sponser in keeping a brand fresh in your mind

People forget that over-advertising can be more damaging than no- or under-advertising. Take Ryan Reynolds and Mint Mobile. I genuinely love his acting (to each their own for sure) but after being constantly bombarded with commercials for Mint Mobile, I legitimately am tired and lately avoid not just him, but Mint Mobile, Ryan Reynolds, and anything associated with him. The problem with YouTube is not that they have…

> The problem with YouTube is not that they have ads...it is that the platform sprays for effect while claiming to care about what they are doing when any reasonable user can tell that they are simply flooding the pipes with ad content.

From what I heard, Google’s sells ad space via an auction system. They collect information about a viewer then when said viewer watches a video/visits a website, all the ad space on the video/website goes on auction with the viewer’s characteristics attached in real time. Advertisers will look at the viewer characteristics and decide if they want to bid. The winner of the auction gets the ad spot and has their ad shown. All this is of course fully automated and over in just a few milliseconds.

What this means is, advertisers have full control over what ads you get. Ad space goes to the highest bidder. If you have money, you can spam a specific demographic to death with your ads. Google does not in anyway try to protect the quality of life of its users.

Google’s system is both amazing and disappointing at the same time. It’s an amazingly efficient way to maximize the value of ad space but disappointing in the Google doesn’t do any kind of advance user behavior modeling to see what ads the user would be most receptive to (i.e. would not frustrate the user, high probability of engagement with what’s advertised, …) instead they leave it to the “free market” (i.e. the advertisers) to figure that out.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Another reason why Android is the superior phone OS.

iOS has Yattee[1]. It's technically a personal video-watching app, not a Youtube app, which you're supposed to link with your own personal video server, but the server APIs it is compatible with are the same APIs that are exposed by Invidious and Newpipe instances. This is not a coincidence. I'm sure Apple is going to delist it from the App Store at some point (App Store guidelines are just that, guidelines, and ther…

Does this actually work? I've tried a couple of times but it nearly always hangs on loading videos, and when it does load it gets stuck buffering every few seconds. Perhaps the Piped instance I'm connected too is overloaded?
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