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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#141
Does anyone else have the experience of next queued videos always going wild with longer and longer videos of the same stuff? I had a screenshot prepared to report as an issue, but in the end didn't feel it would be worth it.

Absolutely every time I'll start with a song, and 3 next videos after, I'll be facing a 10 hour long version of the same fkng song, if not a loop of the same 2 or 3 videos.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#143
post #17

If the war on ablockers continues things may escalate, and the next step will soon mean deploying stronger DRM, in the same way that was tried in the fight against piracy. There's a real parallel between the two. Streaming killed piracy for a while because the service was easy and convenient, with everything in one place. Then, streaming added more and more ads all while it became more fragmented. Now if you pay for…

What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

> Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

Or the videos aren't that high quality, and are just barely at the level of value where people feel like the time spent watching (or leaving it on as background noise) was worth it, but not at the level of value where time spent+ads or money are worth it.

Like I've watched a LTT video before. I suppose I was very bored. Would I ever pay to watch it? No. Do I even think it was worth the time I spent watching? Probably not. It's like listening to some stranger at the pub tell a story. You might listen if it's interesting, but you probably wouldn't pay them for it.

There's tons of low quality, low effort stuff on there like vlogs, clean/cook/shop with me, hauls, etc. It's a hobby for the creator. People don't want to pay for it because it's not worth anything.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#144
I use an old Android device for watching Youtube, but Youtube recently dropped support for it. Immediately downloaded F-Droid, installed this, back up and running better than ever.

One thing to note is that the Google export for Youtube is completely broken and I've been manually importing subscriptions.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#145

It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not having that option.

How does giving a thumbs up “support the creators”?

I’m sure they’d rather you watch the ads or pay for premium.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#146
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That works for pre-roll ads, forcing the client to silence them and wait at best (I believe the Twitch streaming service does this) For mid-stream ads, that doesn't work. You could pre-fetch the ad and surrounding video early, so that you can watch buffered content while the server thinks an ad is playing.

The server would need to not allow buffering further than the next ad.

Multistream client, continually skipping around, and stitching together buffers?

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#147
post #45

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

The human ability to rationalise blocking out sponsored advertising is basically infinite.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#148
post #17

If the war on ablockers continues things may escalate, and the next step will soon mean deploying stronger DRM, in the same way that was tried in the fight against piracy. There's a real parallel between the two. Streaming killed piracy for a while because the service was easy and convenient, with everything in one place. Then, streaming added more and more ads all while it became more fragmented. Now if you pay for…

What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

I think part of the disdain is that YouTube was ad-free until they ran all the competition out of business.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#149
post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are the terms YouTube sets out when providing you with the service. You can either pay for it (as the terms set out), watch with ads (as the terms set out), or not watch it. All other use is effectively piracy, and they have the legal and arguably moral* right to block you for not following it. * Yes, it does cost them money to serve and store videos, and no that doesn't disappear with scale. YouTube ingests hu…

What terms? I don’t recall agreeing to any?

> Your use of the Service is subject to these terms, the YouTube Community Guidelines and the Policy, Safety and Copyright Policies which may be updated from time to time (together, this "Agreement").

https://www.youtube.com/t/terms

Even if you don't think you have to follow them, they can still ban you for not following their terms, or not agreeing to them. They are not under an obligation to serve you video unauthenticated and/or without receiving what they expect to receive in return (agreeing to their terms and thus paying via ads or money).

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you watch YouTube enough you'll basically become aware of all the sponsors pretty quickly (and may even be a customer of some already!), so any exposure beyond that is a waste of time for all involved - if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either.

>if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either. There is still value to the sponser in keeping a brand fresh in your mind

Sponsors don't get to hijack the caches of our brains. Our minds are ours, we alone will decide what information is or isn't "kept fresh".
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