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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

This kind of sponsor*

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#92

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People will always rationalize their not paying. Tracking, ethics, whatever. Anything other than abstaining from use, lol.

Nope. Thanks to this site i (finally, and only about an hour ago) got newpipe from fdroid, subscribed to all my channels, and sod youtube, I'm not going back. An appropriate ad occasionally, no problem. But recently?? With newpipe there's a way out: i will happily contribute.

Using New pipe is not abstaining from YouTube, lol.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#93
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Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

Sponsorblock can also skip theme songs, recaps, and other parts of content you may not want. I also enjoy being able to show my children certain content from regular YouTube without having them subjected to the ads or me scrolling around.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#95
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Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

Try using sponsorblock for a few weeks and then report back...

I think it's one of those things like shoes... Nobody thinks they need shoes till they try them, and then they tend to wear them all the time.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#96
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If the war on ablockers continues things may escalate, and the next step will soon mean deploying stronger DRM, in the same way that was tried in the fight against piracy. There's a real parallel between the two. Streaming killed piracy for a while because the service was easy and convenient, with everything in one place. Then, streaming added more and more ads all while it became more fragmented. Now if you pay for…

The end game is encrypted DRM stream (which is decrypted in the display) with encoded ads (so you can't block it tinkering with JS). I guess that only abundance of devices without DRM is stopping this scenario.

And with Microsoft pushing TPM requirements with Windows 11 it's just a matter of time before thing are locked down even further.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#97
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Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

it'll lead to more hidden advertisement

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#98

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Because you could just seek over them?

Yes, but the server knows exactly what frames it has sent you and when. If you don't want to watch the ad frames there's nothing the server can do, but it can make sure to not send you the frame that comes after the ad, until the 10 seconds of the ad has passed since it sent you the last frame before the ad.

That works for pre-roll ads, forcing the client to silence them and wait at best (I believe the Twitch streaming service does this)

For mid-stream ads, that doesn't work. You could pre-fetch the ad and surrounding video early, so that you can watch buffered content while the server thinks an ad is playing.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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> If they ask for payment they will pirate. If the price & convenience is right, a significant chunk (enough to offset the impact of freeloaders) will pay. Movie piracy used to be the norm before Netflix came along, yet movies were still made. Music piracy was the same until Spotify came along, yet there's more music than ever being produced.

> Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with The vast majority of people do not pirate, and most people who pay would probably find piracy unethical to begin with.

> The vast majority of people do not pirate

I would be happy to see a serious study about this. What you call piracy has been the norm for centuries and millenia for spreading culture and reinterpreting music/shows produced by other people.

In the vast majority of the world (including in the global north), the budget you have for culture is low (if any) and when you have people with a computer, copying stuff is very common. For example El Paquete in Cuba was well documented, but even growing up in France i remember so many examples of just sharing with friends (before the Internet but still).

Even for the newer generations, Youtube & Spotify started as pirate services hosting a myriad of copyrighted content. I don't know about Spotify, but i still see people watching whole movies/shows pirated on Youtube rather often when going to places with shared computers.

Sharing is the norm. Restricting sharing is delusional desire for control. Still, it's important that people making art & science make a living, although it's not just them who need to make a living in this crazy world and we'd be all better off with UBI or abolition of private property (one can dream). So you may find it interesting that HADOPI, the law that criminalized non-profit file-sharing in France actually ordered a study on piracy and media consumption back in the early 2010s, and their own study acknowledged that there was no economic loss from piracy (as people don't reduce their budget due to pirating) and the bigger pirates were also the bigger buyers.

I dare you to find a single person who "does not pirate" in any sense of the world and actively respects copyright laws. If only, someone who doesn't sing "happy birthday" song because that's actually copyright infringement. Or doesn't watch music videos on Youtube because they might be pirated. I bet that person doesn't exist, or at least that they are not the "vast majority".

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