NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android • Hacker News Board

If the war on ablockers continues things may escalate, and the next step will soon mean deploying stronger DRM, in the same way that was tried in the fight against piracy.

There's a real parallel between the two. Streaming killed piracy for a while because the service was easy and convenient, with everything in one place. Then, streaming added more and more ads all while it became more fragmented. Now if you pay for a service, you will still see ads, and you have an increasingly limited catalog (even on Youtube, as creators move extra content on Nebula or Patreon)

The more Youtube squeezes and pushes ads, the more demand there will be for adblockers.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by lacrimacida » Sat, Nov 04, 2023, 9:08 PM UTC

Anything like this for Ios? Im now downloading vids or sound files from youtube for offline use with invidio.us

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by vbezhenar » Sat, Nov 04, 2023, 9:10 PM UTC

tux3 wrote: post #17

If the war on ablockers continues things may escalate, and the next step will soon mean deploying stronger DRM, in the same way that was tried in the fight against piracy. There's a real parallel between the two. Streaming killed piracy for a while because the service was easy and convenient, with everything in one place. Then, streaming added more and more ads all while it became more fragmented. Now if you pay for…

The end game is encrypted DRM stream (which is decrypted in the display) with encoded ads (so you can't block it tinkering with JS).

I guess that only abundance of devices without DRM is stopping this scenario.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by ethbr1 » Sat, Nov 04, 2023, 9:12 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #19

tux3 wrote: post #17

If the war on ablockers continues things may escalate, and the next step will soon mean deploying stronger DRM, in the same way that was tried in the fight against piracy. There's a real parallel between the two. Streaming killed piracy for a while because the service was easy and convenient, with everything in one place. Then, streaming added more and more ads all while it became more fragmented. Now if you pay for…

The end game is encrypted DRM stream (which is decrypted in the display) with encoded ads (so you can't block it tinkering with JS). I guess that only abundance of devices without DRM is stopping this scenario.

Only general purpose computers are stopping this scenario.