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Dirupting enemy communications is a pretty standard goal of any army in a war. I'm more surprised it took this long.
the west had a different opinion on russia doing the same in ukraine
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Would you mind doing the calculation of what the Palestinian casualties corresponds if they were happening in the US? or this does not serve your point?
Good point. But it's a little tricky considering the vast majority of Palestinians (~7 million) are refugees that have been displaced from their homeland. So are we talking about the half a million left in Gaza or the entire diaspora?
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> What future would that be? A future where they stop killing Israeli's and slowly build up the trust to restore normal relations and trade. Gaza was given the chance when Israel decoccupied Gaza in 2005. They decided to vote in Hamas in a democratic election instead. > Gazan citizens do not have a say in much of anything, they're either combatants, captives or hostages depending on what your perspective from outside…
What if Israel stopped killing Palestinians and normalized relations with Gaza? Israel could choose a different path.
Hamas slaughtered over a thousand Jewish civilians three weeks ago. They've been continuously launching rockets into Israel since then. They have been able to do that because Israel had chosen to partially normalize relations, eg by allowing trucks to import goods into Gaza, allowing the import of concrete and other building supplies, and allowing Gazan's to enter Israel to work. The latter is particularly atrocious, as it appears that many of those cross-border workers used their access to Israel to help Hamas massacre Israeli civilians.
Obviously, normalizing relations prior to Hamas taking steps to reject violence comes at enormous risk. If Israel had instead decided against taking steps to normalize relations with Gaza, 1400 and counting Israeli's would probably still be alive today.
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Signal’s devs recommend that it be installed from the Play Store, and that is what the vast majority of people do. There has been heavy speculation that certain state actors are able to push a compromised Play Store update to users of interest. Moreover, the Signal board has been overhauled recently, Moxie left, and at least one new member has a US government background. It’s possible that the organization itself has…
Tucker Carlson claims he was contacted by US intelligence asking him to call off a planned interview with Putin that he had only discussed over Signal, although that could presumably have been achieved by a keylogger or spyware without compromising Signal itself.
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If Hamas really relied on internet then they wouldn't have succeeded in the first place. What this will achieve: - information supremacy re. what goes out of Gaza - makes it harder for reporters to do their job - makes it impossible for the people who happen to live there to stay in touch with the rest of the world
If Hamas is getting info from Iran, it's possible there's a benefit here.
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Tucker Carlson claims he was contacted by US intelligence asking him to call off a planned interview with Putin that he had only discussed over Signal, although that could presumably have been achieved by a keylogger or spyware without compromising Signal itself.
It's far more likely the US government has spies inside Carlson's production looking over his shoulder while doing his makeup.
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Peter Todd wrote: > That does not change the fact that Hamas does have widespread support! I already linked you this survey that showed that Hamas doesn't have widespread support: https://twitter.com/ForeignAffairs/status/171800792755696451... > If Israel did nothing other than kill the ~40,000 Hamas soldiers, along with destroying military and economic infrastructure, they'll easily buy themselves another 10 years o…
You're survey shows frustration with ineffective governance. There are lots of governments out there that people are frustrated with, yet still support.
> Oh, okay. You are fine with just repeatedly bombing a captive population. It takes all kinds I guess.
I'm not fine with it. But that doesn't change the fact that from Israeli's point of view, it is a better option than doing nothing. Allowing Hamas to conduct another massacre in the future is unacceptable. It's also unacceptable to allow Hamas to continue to rain down missiles on Israel - they're still launching them into Israel every single day.
how does Israel give evacuation warnings if Palestinian telcos are offline?
They've been giving evacuation warnings for many days with both leaflets and the cell phone network: > Residents in Gaza reported that Israeli planes rained red leaflets on neighborhoods Saturday, urging residents to evacuate. Those with cell phones also received the message digitally, according to social media reports. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/21/idf-prepares-for-gr...
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“Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 1948,” - Ariel Kallner, member of the Likud party. So we agree Israel is committing genocide.
Do you see the irony, you believe one's statements, but the other, you equivocate. Above you were arguing you have to wait and see if they really actually mean it in reality.
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I will agree with you for a second. We don't trust hamas. What about a truce to help civilians and deliver aid and send UN verification team? Wouldn't that be great for people and for morals of the great Isreali people? Oh, I forgot that US veto every attempt for a ceasefire or truce and isreal said it will not respect it anyway.